Alcy or Water injection?

[cam98aro]

Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by victimizati0n:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Nikos95:
Anyone tried either one? Results?

Ohh to save the trouble here before hand, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT PUMPING WATER INTO MY ENGINE! People who especially know old drag racing tricks know what I am talking about.

water injection=pumping water into the engine.

they do it to raise compression, since water is non-compressible. </font>[/QUOTE][img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]
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you didn't even read my post

nice try tho </font>[/QUOTE]what do you mean nice try, that is what they did it for

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by victimizati0n:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by victimizati0n:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Nikos95:
Anyone tried either one? Results?

Ohh to save the trouble here before hand, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT PUMPING WATER INTO MY ENGINE! People who especially know old drag racing tricks know what I am talking about.

water injection=pumping water into the engine.

they do it to raise compression, since water is non-compressible. </font>[/QUOTE][img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]
[img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]
you didn't even read my post

nice try tho </font>[/QUOTE]what do you mean nice try, that is what they did it for </font>[/QUOTE]read my long post above it does not raise the comperession

[cam98aro]

Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by victimizati0n:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by victimizati0n:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Nikos95:
Anyone tried either one? Results?

Ohh to save the trouble here before hand, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT PUMPING WATER INTO MY ENGINE! People who especially know old drag racing tricks know what I am talking about.

water injection=pumping water into the engine.

they do it to raise compression, since water is non-compressible. </font>[/QUOTE][img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]
[img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]
you didn't even read my post

nice try tho </font>[/QUOTE]what do you mean nice try, that is what they did it for </font>[/QUOTE]read my long post above it does not raise the comperession </font>[/QUOTE]then you can fight with professional engine builders in my dads book, rather than off some random persons website

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by victimizati0n:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by victimizati0n:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by victimizati0n:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Nikos95:
Anyone tried either one? Results?

Ohh to save the trouble here before hand, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT PUMPING WATER INTO MY ENGINE! People who especially know old drag racing tricks know what I am talking about.

water injection=pumping water into the engine.

they do it to raise compression, since water is non-compressible. </font>[/QUOTE][img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]
[img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]
you didn't even read my post

nice try tho </font>[/QUOTE]what do you mean nice try, that is what they did it for </font>[/QUOTE]read my long post above it does not raise the comperession </font>[/QUOTE]then you can fight with professional engine builders in my dads book, rather than off some random persons website </font>[/QUOTE][img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] FI people and biulder know more about this then any one and we can run more boost on the same gas if water really increased the CR then we would have to run less boost....

the reason water make little more power is becuase it evopoates into a gas and expands thus more pushing power on the piston, also take's seom heat out of the intake charge

[slow6]

thanks andrew K+

[vanbibber]

NIKOS for the love of god i advise you to do some reading for about 10 months about your car. i dont think you have any idea what youre talking about. you have everyone confused on 6 different forums on this one site.

andrew is right. he posted the facts straight from a reknown alky injection site.

[97burnout]

you guys are crazy... LOL I do honestly know my suspension stuff and a good few engine stuff but not this... sounds like it works though... sounds like chemistry class I am in right now... heats of reaction and energy...

[Nikos95]

Originally posted by vanbibber:
NIKOS for the love of god i advise you to do some reading for about 10 months about your car. i dont think you have any idea what youre talking about. you have everyone confused on 6 different forums on this one site.

andrew is right. he posted the facts straight from a reknown alky injection site.

I know its spraying water, but the first time I tried to talk to a few friends of mine about it they told me I was stupid and you can't run an engine off water... Um I never said anything about running an engine off water, but they just didn't understand, so I figured the people that know what I am talking about would look past it, and the people who didn't have a clue wouldn't go off the fly about the water...

Too many people think its filling your gas tank with water!

[cam98aro]

i talked to about 5 people today, and they all said it raises compression, so does my fathers book all about engines.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by victimizati0n:
i talked to about 5 people today, and they all said it raises compression, so does my fathers book all about engines.

the thing is it can't water evaporates into a vapor witch expands in doing so but it does not raise the compersstion becuase of the heat it pulls out of everything

the only way to rase the compression is to deck the head get, smaller head gasket, deck the block, or get dome pistons

[ March 17, 2006, 06:37 PM: Message edited by: viper04af ]

[Publican]

Nikos - Are you old enough to drive? What is the legal age on your planet? I assume that must be a picture of it under your sign-in.

[cam98aro]

Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by victimizati0n:
i talked to about 5 people today, and they all said it raises compression, so does my fathers book all about engines.

the thing is it can't water evaporates into a vapor witch expands in doing so but it does not raise the compersstion becuase of the heat it pulls out of everything

the only way to rase the compression is to deck the head get, smaller head gasket, deck the block, or get dome pistons </font>[/QUOTE]yes, but water cannot be compressed, adding water to the cylinders, means it will raise the compression, since there is now water in there.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by victimizati0n:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by victimizati0n:
i talked to about 5 people today, and they all said it raises compression, so does my fathers book all about engines.

the thing is it can't water evaporates into a vapor witch expands in doing so but it does not raise the compersstion becuase of the heat it pulls out of everything

the only way to rase the compression is to deck the head get, smaller head gasket, deck the block, or get dome pistons </font>[/QUOTE]yes, but water cannot be compressed, adding water to the cylinders, means it will raise the compression, since there is now water in there. </font>[/QUOTE]your right water can not but water vapor can !!!!!!! jeez

[mwh27]

^^^ word.

I thought compresion was the ratio of volume from piston position at dead bottom to top. Anything else changes the volume density which depends on the atomosphere, which varies if in space, or on a mountain, or running boost.

I clear anything up? Or just confuse some people?

[Nikos95]

Okay from what I am seeing here this almost looks adverse to me now, but I may be wrong.

I was told by a guy that I could use water injection in a n/a enviroment and it would give me a little power boost, from what I am seeing here it doesn't seem like it would give me anything and if it would it would be almost a useless amount for the cost and work required.

True? Should I wait till I get myself turbo'd or super'd?