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  • F-body Do's and Don'ts

    this is from super chevy's "Camaro Peformers" magazine. The article is "LS1 do's and don'ts", but i figured the advice is good and applies to v6's as well:

    1. Do: Subframe Connectors - F-bodies aren't the stiffest cars from the factory. It's a good idea to reinforce the chassis.

    2. Do: Hi-Flo Airlid or K&N FIPK - these only had a few HP at first, but as more mods are added, the additional airflow increases the gains.

    3. Don't: Port the Stock MAF - i don't know if anybody does this to the 3800, but on the LS1 a ported MAF doesn't read the airflow coming in and makes the PCM think the car is running lean, so it retards the ignition timing.

    4. Don't: Larger Throttle Body - unless you're making serious power, don't change the TB at all.

    5. Do: Cat-back Exhaust - same as Airlid or K&N FIPK. only worth a few HP at first, but it starts to pay off as more mods are added.

    6. Don't: Go Nuts with Exhaust - don't go any larger than 3" pipes. Don't run open headers, and cutouts aren't great either. the engine likes a little backpressure. just go with a low-restriction 3" system.

    7. Do: Long-Tube headers - i don't think they even make these for our cars. they do recommend having at least 1.75" tubes and 3" collectors, though. sounds like RKSport....

    8. Don't: Platinum Tip spark plugs - on a turbo'd, supercharged, or nitrous'd car. Platinum plugs get hot and stay hot, which leads to detonation. use colder, conventional-tip plugs. good choices for turbo/superchargers are NGK's TR6 plugs, for nitrous get the TR5's.

    9. Do: Upgrade the valvetrain - the valvetrain on the LS1 is a weak spot. it can't handle too many high revs.

    10. Don't: delete any torque management tables or knock protection - idk if we v6'ers have this, we probably do. if you're PCM tuning, don't delete these.

    11. Do: Be careful with compression - i don't know how many people raise the compression on their 6-cyls. if you're planning on forced induction, the combo of high compression and FI will kill the engine.

    12. Don't: Use a 160* thermo without a manual fan switch - I've been saying this over and over again. Unless you have the computer re-calibrated to turn the fans on at a lower temp, the 160* thermo doesn't do anything. the fans will continue to operate as if the stock thermo is in place. Use a manual fan switch instead.

    13. Don't: Over-cam your blower motor - if you're turbo/supercharging your car, don't have a cam with too much duration or overlap. it's ok to have higher lift, but don't overdo it.

    14. Don't: negelect the fuel system - if you're staying N/A, your stock system should be fine. if you're going the FI or nitrous route, you must upgrade your fuel pump and injectors.

    15. Do: High Stall Converter - always a good idea for automatic cars. the LS1 guys say around 3,300 is good, idk about us v6'ers. the 'verter should be lockup-capable.

    16. Do: Short-throw shifter - i have an automatic, so i don't know if they make short-throws for the T-5s. if they do, go for it. short-throws give you better control, shorter shift times, and they prevent the shift forks from breaking or bending.

    17. Do: Ring and Pinion gears - LS1s can go all-out with 4.10s on 6-spds and 3.73s on automatics. 3.73s on v6's are probably the furthest you can go if you want the best performance. 4.10s in a 6-cyl are ok until 4th gear hits, and then the car falls flat on its face. 3.42s or 3.73s are a good idea. don't forget an LSD, if your car didn't come with it already.

    18. Do: Drag Radials - if you're putting out a lot of power, traction is a big part of dropping your times. get the drag radials and watch your ET drop.

    hope this helps some people out!
    \'98 Camaro - SOLD<br />Best E/T: 15.489 @ 86.48 MPH<br />60\': 2.131<br /><a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/skorpion317\" target=\"_blank\">members.cardomain.com/skorpion317 </a><br />1998 Saturn SL2<br />Official <a href=\"http://www.njdisturbance.com\" target=\"_blank\">NJ Disturbance</a> bracket racer

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    Originally posted by skorpion317:

    6. Don't: Go Nuts with Exhaust - don't go any larger than 3" pipes. Don't run open headers, and cutouts aren't great either. the engine likes a little backpressure. just go with a low-restriction 3" system.

    7. Do: Long-Tube headers - i don't think they even make these for our cars. they do recommend having at least 1.75" tubes and 3" collectors, though. sounds like RKSport....

    10. Don't: delete any torque management tables or knock protection - idk if we v6'ers have this, we probably do. if you're PCM tuning, don't delete these.

    11. Do: Be careful with compression - i don't know how many people raise the compression on their 6-cyls. if you're planning on forced induction, the combo of high compression and FI will kill the engine.

    12. Don't: Use a 160* thermo without a manual fan switch - I've been saying this over and over again. Unless you have the computer re-calibrated to turn the fans on at a lower temp, the 160* thermo doesn't do anything. the fans will continue to operate as if the stock thermo is in place. Use a manual fan switch instead.

    13. Don't: Over-cam your blower motor - if you're turbo/supercharging your car, don't have a cam with too much duration or overlap. it's ok to have higher lift, but don't overdo it.

    14. Don't: negelect the fuel system - if you're staying N/A, your stock system should be fine. if you're going the FI or nitrous route, you must upgrade your fuel pump and injectors.
    6. I already proved this wrong with my dynoing.
    7. This has nothing to do with our car.
    10. Once again we get rid of our torque management for a reason. Why? Because it helps performance. (Related to Auto only)
    11. Thought this was general performance knowledge?
    12. Would be better to say reprogram the PCM to work with your new thermo.
    13. Thus LS is your friend.
    14. Even N/A cars will need more fuel.
    00\' firebird v6 5spd<br />201rwhp ---- 230 rwtq<br />\"Everyday I grow stronger...and further from you.\"<br />WARNING: Do not take any of my comments seriously unless they are technical in nature and then only at your own risk

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ReodDai:


      10. "Once again we get rid of our torque management for a reason. Why? Because it helps performance."

      According to Greg Banish, owner of Detroit SpeedWorks (they do a ton of f-body tuning, everything from twin-turbos to simple exhaust installation) you can pick up .1 and a MPH or two, but you'll quickly burn out the bands and kill the transmission.
      11. "Thought this was general performance knowledge?"
      It is, but that doesn't stop people from doing it.
      12. "Would be better to say reprogram the PCM to work with your new thermo."
      That's the best way to go about it, but you can just get a fan switch and do it yourself.
      14. "Even N/A cars will need more fuel." Obviously, but they won't need the 255 lph fuel pump. the stock system should be fine.
      \'98 Camaro - SOLD<br />Best E/T: 15.489 @ 86.48 MPH<br />60\': 2.131<br /><a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/skorpion317\" target=\"_blank\">members.cardomain.com/skorpion317 </a><br />1998 Saturn SL2<br />Official <a href=\"http://www.njdisturbance.com\" target=\"_blank\">NJ Disturbance</a> bracket racer

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      • #4
        Thought we were going for performance here not long term daily driving? In that case don't look at any shift kits...

        Also you can find a need for an upgraded fuel pump and injectors in an N/A car ;)
        00\' firebird v6 5spd<br />201rwhp ---- 230 rwtq<br />\"Everyday I grow stronger...and further from you.\"<br />WARNING: Do not take any of my comments seriously unless they are technical in nature and then only at your own risk

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