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  • #16
    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr> What is the mpg for a 3.4? 3.8? <hr></blockquote>

    I have a 1999 Camaro 3.8L with an automatic and I get 28 mpg with pure Interstate driving. I put the SLP CAI, Whisper Lid, and K & N Filter on a few weekends ago. I haven't gone on any trips to compute my Interstate mpg with the mods until this weekend. I will be driving back to Omaha from KC tomorrow and will compute my mpg with the mods. (I didn't compute it on the way down).

    It would be nice to get another 1-2 mpg but doesn't really matter to me if I don't. If I was worried about gas mileage I wouldn't be driving a Camaro:)
    SLP CAI, K&N, Whisper Lid, 180* thermo, manual fan switch, 3.42 gears, Auburn Pro LSD, Wester\'s PCM Tuning, TSP Rumbler, High Flow Cat. Best Time: 9.909@71.58 (1/8 mile)

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    • #17
      The 3.8 is EPA rated 22/30 city/highway. I get 32 or 33 highway cuz I use Z-max fuel treatment. Thats the only thing I've done to change fuel economy other than add a KnN filter. Oh yeah the SLP CAI is on the way.
      SLP CAI, Flow Master exhaust, Pace Setter ceramic coated Headers, Hi-Flo CAT, Stage 1 clutch, Posi rear end, 180 thermo, Edelbrock C/O front H/D rear shocks... More to come.

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      • #18
        dude, z-max is [img]graemlins/bs.gif[/img] just so you know, a CAI would do a good job on increasing fuel economy

        seriously, check out z-max on an search engine, and you'll find a whole bunch of legal actions brought against them for mis representation in their ads
        97 camaro<br />black, 5 speed, t-tops, rockford fosgate cd w/4X6.5\" rockford speakers, 3\" flowmaster american thunder catback with 3\" carsound cat, SLP CAI, B&M Ripper w/leather Hurst shift knob, 5% tint.<br /> <a href=\"http://camaroz28.cardomain.com/id/ianwells100\" target=\"_blank\">http://camaroz28.cardomain.com/id/ianwells100</a>

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        • #19
          I calculated my gas mileage back from KC yesterday and I got 30 mpg (actually 29.8) which is a 2 mpg increase on the interstate after the slp cai, whisper lid, and K & N.

          I believe the 22/30 EPA rating is for the manual transmissions. The highway rating for the automatic is 28 I believe.
          SLP CAI, K&N, Whisper Lid, 180* thermo, manual fan switch, 3.42 gears, Auburn Pro LSD, Wester\'s PCM Tuning, TSP Rumbler, High Flow Cat. Best Time: 9.909@71.58 (1/8 mile)

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          • #20
            You can check the mods below, but I think the HPP III decreased my mpg. I just got 27.5 mpg from Buffalo to Pittsburgh last week. (I was in the 29-1 at one point.) I also have an O2 sim in my fourth O2 Sensor that might not be helping. Just an FYI, there is a difference between summer and winter gasoline that may be offset by air density (i.e. winter gas has more propane and ethane which is farther away from octane but the air is much denser in winetr.)
            Zaino; FireBatCave Decals; Red Inside<br /><br />K&N Filter & Lid; Removed MAF screen; FRA; Raised Air Box; 180°F Stat; BMR STB; 3\" Catco & S-pipe; Borla Cat-Back; O2 Sim; HPPIII; NGK TR55s; Taylor 8mm wires<br /><br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/cbass300\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/cbass300</a>

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            • #21
              <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by 96blkbird:
              The 3.8 is EPA rated 22/30 city/highway. I get 32 or 33 highway cuz I use Z-max fuel treatment. Thats the only thing I've done to change fuel economy other than add a KnN filter. Oh yeah the SLP CAI is on the way.<hr></blockquote>
              I use the cheapest 87 octane gas I can find, bone stock, I manage to get 34 MPG with my M5, 3.08, and between 65-70 MPH.

              Haven't checked what it'll be with 3.42's but it should be negligable.

              If only I had a Gear Vendors Under/Overdrive kit. I'd have a 6th gear ratio of 0.58:1. Dunno if a stock V6 would push that much gearing, may need more torque and gearing. But if you could drop cruising speed to below 2000 RPM, you'd really see some gains in MPG. I just don't favor blowing 2 grand on an overdrive kit on the car that isn't my all-out project.
              <b>15.41</b> @ 89.80 & 15.45 @ <b>91.64</b>, 2.21 60ft, 3,440 raceweight, using <b>OEM</b> Equipment. <br />\'98 L67/M49 w/ 134,000 miles before spun bearing. \"<i>It\'s all stock, Baby</i>!\"

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              • #22
                do the speed limit :rolleyes:

                have properly inflated tires

                use skinier tires, less rolling restance

                reply to your own topic ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]

                run correct octane for you car/mods

                use A/C vs windows down
                1978 Formula 461 in progress of being built :rock:
                2013 Ram 1500 Big Horn

                former owner of 85 bird w/ 2.8 - 3.4 - 3800 II - 5.0
                94 comero 3.4

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                • #23
                  <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by 3.4 slow to go:
                  do the speed limit :rolleyes:

                  use A/C vs windows down
                  <hr></blockquote>
                  Now I thought that the A/C had a clutched pulley so If the A/C is not on, then it takes no power from the belt, and when the A/C is on it takes power from the belt to run this. With that said, then wouldnt it make more sense not to use the A/C.
                  Cardomain

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                  • #24
                    AC will kill your gas mileage... its better to take the wind with your windows down...
                    99 3.8 Camaro (M5) Y87

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                    • #25
                      <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by mcgs999:
                      AC will kill your gas mileage... its better to take the wind with your windows down...<hr></blockquote>

                      Wrong. edit: sort of

                      The power los thru using the A/C is less that that lost due to the additional drag from having the windows down at highway speeds.

                      The key phrase being "at highway speed"

                      edit: The A/C cycles on & off. The clutch is not always ingauged when the A/c is on/running.

                      [ April 29, 2003: Message edited by: 3.4 slow to go ]</p>
                      1978 Formula 461 in progress of being built :rock:
                      2013 Ram 1500 Big Horn

                      former owner of 85 bird w/ 2.8 - 3.4 - 3800 II - 5.0
                      94 comero 3.4

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                      • #26
                        whats a properly flated tire?
                        my max psi is 44, i keep mine at 40
                        98 Firebird 3.8L<br />17\' chrome wheels, B&B triflo w/ quad, window tint, rear black outs

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                        • #27
                          after 3 pages, and writing every tire manufactuer I could get a hold of. 35 PSI on the street if you are a spirited driver. 30 PSI if not.
                          <b>15.41</b> @ 89.80 & 15.45 @ <b>91.64</b>, 2.21 60ft, 3,440 raceweight, using <b>OEM</b> Equipment. <br />\'98 L67/M49 w/ 134,000 miles before spun bearing. \"<i>It\'s all stock, Baby</i>!\"

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                          • #28
                            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Bliggida:

                            I use the cheapest 87 octane gas I can find, bone stock, I manage to get 34 MPG with my M5, 3.08, and between 65-70 MPH.
                            <hr></blockquote>

                            M5's come with 3.23 rear gears, not 3.08's.
                            2001+ 3.8's were rated at 19/31 from their window stickers (manual). My 2000 Camaro M5 was rated at 19/30. As I stated earlier I never saw less then 25.5mpg's. I never had a chance to do all out highway and clock it, but I'd have to imagine mid 30's. Heck, 3.42 gears in my WS6 and I pulled over 30mpgs on a long trip (around 32-33)

                            Chris
                            <b>2002 BSM TransAm WS.6 M6</b><br /><b>350rwhp, 365rwtq</b><br /><b>Stock:</b>13.455 @ 105.39 2.129 60\'<br /><b>Mod:</b>12.449 @ 113 1.832 60\'<br /><br /><b>2004 QSM GTO M6</b><br /><b>303rwhp, 329rwtq</b><br />Stock: 13.74 @ 102.14 2.1 60\'<br /><br /> <a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/silvertaws6\" target=\"_blank\">http://members.cardomain.com/silvertaws6</a> <br /><br /><b>1984 Firebird S/E M5</b><br />2.8L

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