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    We replaced the alternator about a week ago and now the car wont start.
    All the lights work, but when you turn the key it just keeps cranking. There is no clicking sound at all. It sounds like it wants to start but it wont turn over. Could this be the battery, starter, or something with the fuel?
    What should I look for first to diagnose the proplem?

    Thanks

    [ December 22, 2004, 04:01 PM: Message edited by: '98 BlackBird ]
    New Toy Red 94 Formula LT1
    RT: .0006 60': 1.894 1/8 mile: 8.351 @ 84.89 1/4 mile: 12.974 @ 107.81
    crashed Red 96 Camaro 3.8l: 14.91 @ 92.38
    The ex wife's Black 98 Firebird 3.8l: 15.23 @ 88.12

  • #2
    check all fuse and relays first then check for spark and finally fuel PSI.

    you fuel pump is priming right?

    to check for spark take out one plug ground it to the block and have someone crank the car. it should arch.

    check for fuel you need fuel PSI gues if you dot have one at lease see if there is fuel in the fuel rail after you prime it buy pushing on the sharader valve
    www.turbov6camaro.com
    1997 3800 Series II Camaro
    4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
    7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
    11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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    • #3
      buy not turning over you mean mnoing happens when you hit the key?

      or does the starter just crank and crank the motor over and over? like there was no plugs in it
      www.turbov6camaro.com
      1997 3800 Series II Camaro
      4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
      7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
      11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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      • #4
        it just cranks and cranks over and over, but it doesn't start.
        I have no idea if the fuel pump is priming. I am not mechanically good with cars.
        New Toy Red 94 Formula LT1
        RT: .0006 60': 1.894 1/8 mile: 8.351 @ 84.89 1/4 mile: 12.974 @ 107.81
        crashed Red 96 Camaro 3.8l: 14.91 @ 92.38
        The ex wife's Black 98 Firebird 3.8l: 15.23 @ 88.12

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        • #5
          Originally posted by '98 BlackBird:
          it just cranks and cranks over and over, but it doesn't start.
          I have no idea if the fuel pump is priming. I am not mechanically good with cars.
          ok you should here the fuel pump wine for about 3 seconds when you put the key to "on" then it will stop....

          try to prime it few times but check all your fuse's first to make sure non are blew out...

          then try and check for spark
          www.turbov6camaro.com
          1997 3800 Series II Camaro
          4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
          7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
          11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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          • #6
            does it live? lol
            www.turbov6camaro.com
            1997 3800 Series II Camaro
            4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
            7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
            11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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            • #7
              Well I am at work, and April was at home when this happened. So I will not be able to check until tonight, when it's dark.
              She will just drive my car until we can find that the feck is going on
              New Toy Red 94 Formula LT1
              RT: .0006 60': 1.894 1/8 mile: 8.351 @ 84.89 1/4 mile: 12.974 @ 107.81
              crashed Red 96 Camaro 3.8l: 14.91 @ 92.38
              The ex wife's Black 98 Firebird 3.8l: 15.23 @ 88.12

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              • #8
                Originally posted by '98 BlackBird:
                Well I am at work, and April was at home when this happened. So I will not be able to check until tonight, when it's dark.
                She will just drive my car until we can find that the feck is going on
                tell her to get her hand dirty !!!! i really board lol type step bye step if she needs lol
                www.turbov6camaro.com
                1997 3800 Series II Camaro
                4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
                7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
                11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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                • #9
                  LOL she wont know what the hell she is looking at. I am not even going to waste my time trying to explain it to her.
                  New Toy Red 94 Formula LT1
                  RT: .0006 60': 1.894 1/8 mile: 8.351 @ 84.89 1/4 mile: 12.974 @ 107.81
                  crashed Red 96 Camaro 3.8l: 14.91 @ 92.38
                  The ex wife's Black 98 Firebird 3.8l: 15.23 @ 88.12

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                  • #10
                    Well its either not getting spark or fuel.

                    If its getting fuel, you guys might have just flooded it out. But do what Viper said, turn the key on the on posistion and you'll hear a "wheeeeeeeen clunk" The clunk is the PCM telling the FP to shutdown because the car is not running. If you do not hear this, the FP is gone or not getting power.

                    A ghetto way to check to at least see if you're getting pressure is to remove the shrader valve cap on the fuel rail and stick your nail to depress the needle, and if gas comes spewing out, you're at least getting some fuel.

                    If you're for sure you're getting fuel, make sure all of your plug wires look good...then you can move on to see if your coil packs are good.

                    If you have access to a scanner, now would be a time to scan the car.
                    -1999 Camaro Coupe 3800 Series II V6 A4 - SOLD<br />-1998 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP coupe

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                    • #11
                      Just found out it's not getting fuel. :(
                      New Toy Red 94 Formula LT1
                      RT: .0006 60': 1.894 1/8 mile: 8.351 @ 84.89 1/4 mile: 12.974 @ 107.81
                      crashed Red 96 Camaro 3.8l: 14.91 @ 92.38
                      The ex wife's Black 98 Firebird 3.8l: 15.23 @ 88.12

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                      • #12
                        Check your fuel pump relays first (I think fuse, I can't recal right now).

                        Take an identical relay, say from the starter slot, and move it to the FP slot...just switch them. Now when you turn they key, and if you hear the pump prime, and if you turn the key to the start posistion and the starter doesn't do crap, you know its a simple relay.

                        If NOT...most likely your fuel pump has gone south. :( Sorry man.
                        -1999 Camaro Coupe 3800 Series II V6 A4 - SOLD<br />-1998 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP coupe

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                        • #13
                          car is taking the break up very hard huh? lol j/k If I didn't have a doctors appointment to go to right now I would drive up there and help. April sounded reeeel pissed on the phone lol
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                          • #14
                            Well she had one of her "male" friends come over and pulled the fuel pump. It was clogged up real good. crap, now I cant remember if ti was the pump or filter she said was clogged.
                            New Toy Red 94 Formula LT1
                            RT: .0006 60': 1.894 1/8 mile: 8.351 @ 84.89 1/4 mile: 12.974 @ 107.81
                            crashed Red 96 Camaro 3.8l: 14.91 @ 92.38
                            The ex wife's Black 98 Firebird 3.8l: 15.23 @ 88.12

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by andrew.brandon:
                              car is taking the break up very hard huh?
                              [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] Yes it is. It's a sign that April should not leave
                              New Toy Red 94 Formula LT1
                              RT: .0006 60': 1.894 1/8 mile: 8.351 @ 84.89 1/4 mile: 12.974 @ 107.81
                              crashed Red 96 Camaro 3.8l: 14.91 @ 92.38
                              The ex wife's Black 98 Firebird 3.8l: 15.23 @ 88.12

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