SES light after wire change?

[raxxus]

I changed my wires last nite, and now it stumbles a little when I give it gas and threw the following codes


P1651 PSP Switch Input Malfunction
P1652 IAC Monitor disabled by PSP Switch failed on
P0336 Crankshaft Position Sensor A Circuit Range/Performance


What do you guys think? Bad wires? Bad luck? :(

[Magnus]

moving to general tech.

[AllTheGoodNamesAreGone]

derrr... check the obvious.. make sure you have goood conncetions on all the plugs and coils..

I know the tylor wires i got had to be jammed on there pretty hard..

if that dosent make it better.. get your longest stock wire and swap it in.. one plug at a time.. to find out wich wire is bad..

thats a good start..

i wouldent drive your car untill you get this solved..

~Billy

[apiccola]

Did you pry on anything in order to remove your plug boots?

Do any of your plug wires touch or run along any sensor wires or wire looms?

[raxxus]

Alright new update.

The wire to the 3rd cylinder maybe? ( driver side middle) was UNDER the sensor of some sort, so, changed taht, put it iwth the rest a bit away from it... also.. the number 2 cylinder (pass side front) wire was turned sharply, not bent/twisted, but enough to warrant me to fix it to create more slack for it. Also the wires going over the top of the engine, they were on the sensor on the to towards the back, fixed that now, to the original position. Hope all goes well tomorrow! Thanks for all the help guys! Can't start it tonite, dad upstairs would kill me, only thing I don't like about flows [img]smile.gif[/img]

[raxxus]

Nope, didn't help. Prolly going to take it to the shop now :(

[Dojo2000]

Don't know what you used as your source to look up those codes, but they're wrong.

P1651 Fan 1 Relay Control Circuit
P1652 Fan 2 Relay Control Circuit
P0336 Crankshaft Position (CKP) Sensor A Performance

First two mean your fans are already on when the PCM wants to turn them on or vice versa (happens all the time with a manual fan switch.) I don't know what the last one means.

The stumbling is probably coming from one of your wires arcing somewhere on the engine like a bolt. Wait till its dark outside, pop your hood, and rev the engine a lot(you can do this at the throttle body.) Look around the engine bay for for sparking or small, blue arcs between your wires and metal.

[raxxus]

Hey, I just realized I have one 7mm wire on and 5 8mm, the way I tested it was weird but it worked but I left a 7mm on there, would this cause that problem?

-The stumbling is probably coming from one of your wires arcing somewhere on the engine like a bolt.

What does this mean? That like a wire is twisted or turning too sharp a turn or whatver? Or just caught on something? I'll check it out! thanks! I'll do that later tonite also ! thanks man!

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[AllTheGoodNamesAreGone]

ehh.. 7mm 5mm.. whatever.. that wont make too much of a diffrence..

check your fan fuse/relay

arcing.. he is taking about the possibility that one of your plug wires is f-ed up and a bare peice of wire is possibly touching metel on the car.. causing a ground.. this would be verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry bad..

DO WHAT I TOLD YOU ABOVE!! swap each wire with a stock wire.. one by one.. starting the car in between each swap.. and see if it makes a diffrence!

~Billy

[raxxus]

See the thing is I don't have my stock ones anymore, my step-mom threw them out and the garbage man came today :( I just put on the last 8mm wire, I'll start it, see how it runs, and if it does the same thing, I'll pull every wire and inspect each line.

[Dojo2000]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by AllTheGoodNamesAreGone:
arcing.. he is taking about the possibility that one of your plug wires is f-ed up and a bare peice of wire is possibly touching metel on the car.. causing a ground.. this would be verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry bad.. <hr></blockquote>

The wire doesn't even have to be bare. The wires aren't insulated enough to keep the energy from acring to nearby metal. I had a wire hanging near one of the manifold bolts that would arc when the engine was under a load.

Do you even have a manual fan switch?

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by raxxus:
What does this mean? That like a wire is twisted or turning too sharp a turn or whatver? Or just caught on something? <hr></blockquote>

Think of a spark plug - that's arcing. The electricity's just jumping.

[raxxus]

Yes I have a manual fan switch, and love it to death! [img]smile.gif[/img]


Ok, so just make sure the wires are not near the heat manifolds?

Update- Ok, I made sure the wires were alright, and the wires on the left side were on a bronze metal piece and I made sure they weren't touching it, and it still did the same thing. All the wires look fine, I could start taking some dig. pics if that'd help! I have an appt. for my shop that I work on at 3 just in case I couldnt figure it out tonite, which it looks like I can't :(

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