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    as you all know i changed out my waterpump and gasket hoping that would solve my leaking issue, turns out its not the water pump, but what lies beyond the pump itself, can anyone help me out on this issue...things like, what is it? and how to fix it, lol
    once again all help is appreciated
    I will take on all comers...or come on all takers!!! Whichever you prefer.

  • #2
    What lies behind the water pump is the front cover. There is a gasket between there and the block that could have blown, but without seeing it it's hard to guess.
    Matt
    1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
    Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.

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    • #3
      How difficult would it be to replace?
      and i didnt think water traveled beyond the waterpump, lol
      I will take on all comers...or come on all takers!!! Whichever you prefer.

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      • #4
        I really don't know how hard it is on the 3.4. You'll have to drain the coolant and oil, remove the crank pulley, possibly remove the water pump again, etc. In the 3.8 you could get the bolts that go through the oil pan without having to remove it, but my manual says you'll have remove your oil pan.

        Also, while you're in there you might as well replace the timing chain and tensioner.
        Matt
        1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
        Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.

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        • #5
          i wasnt aware there was coolant behind the timing chain cover, just oil.
          2000 3.8 A4 Pewter Camaro

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          • #6
            Sigh, maybe i should let a shop do this one
            thank you
            I will take on all comers...or come on all takers!!! Whichever you prefer.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BLLDOGG:
              i wasnt aware there was coolant behind the timing chain cover, just oil.
              http://www.leadingedgesim.com/mkapro...1185_small.JPG

              The 2 large holes on either side is where the coolant goes into the block. ;)
              Matt
              1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
              Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.

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              • #8
                anyone have an idea what something like this would cost at a shop...
                labor only?
                I will take on all comers...or come on all takers!!! Whichever you prefer.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 98Camaro3.8:
                  </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by BLLDOGG:
                  i wasnt aware there was coolant behind the timing chain cover, just oil.
                  http://www.leadingedgesim.com/mkapro...1185_small.JPG

                  The 2 large holes on either side is where the coolant goes into the block. ;)
                  </font>[/QUOTE]thank you for clearing that up for me [img]smile.gif[/img]

                  how do you have so many pics and writeups?
                  2000 3.8 A4 Pewter Camaro

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BLLDOGG:
                    thank you for clearing that up for me [img]smile.gif[/img]

                    how do you have so many pics and writeups?
                    That pic was from my heads/cam install. ;)

                    Alot of the writeups are from the factory service manual. Others are just ones that I've collected from the net over the years. :D

                    As for the install, I'd expect it to be kind of pricey. It's a PITA to get access to it, so it would probably cost a few hundred to replace. That all depends on how good of a deal you get, though.
                    Matt
                    1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
                    Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.

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                    • #11
                      i got quoted for 165-180 assuming i bring all the stuff
                      98camaro3.8 share the wealth man, lol
                      I will take on all comers...or come on all takers!!! Whichever you prefer.

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                      • #12
                        at a shop its gonna coast you a pretty penny. Its failrly easy to replace that gasket just keep taking things off the frong of the engine until you have full and clear acess to it. You'll see the time chain once you get everything off. And then just reasemble everything back to normal. Just drain the coolant and oil so that they don't mix and make things even worse. And if you decide to do it you might as well replace the timing chain and sprokets while your at it seeings how your already there and have everything exposed.

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                        • #13
                          I had to replace that gasket on my 3.4L It took me like half a week to get it done, and I'm a pretty good shade tree mechanic. Taking it apart isn't that bad, putting it back together can be a b*tch. You pretty much have to take off most of the accessories to get to the timing chain cover. And like crasher said, now's a good time to replace the timing chain and sprockets. You'll have to drain the coolant and oil, the water pump pulley, sirpentine belt, water pump, cranshaft balancer, and unbolt the power steering pump and move it out of the way... it says to remove the oil pan, but I didn't have to, but make sure you don't mess up the oil pan gasket that's right under the timing chain cover. So... have fun w/ it. It really wasn't too bad, but kind of frustrating if you haven't done it before. Good luck
                          \'97 Camaro 3.8L

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                          • #14
                            well getting there wont be too bad, since ive done more than half those things....the thing that scares me is the oil pan part
                            i never taken mine off, and ive been told its quite difficult
                            I will take on all comers...or come on all takers!!! Whichever you prefer.

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                            • #15
                              Well... like I said in my last post, you probably won't have to take off your oil pan if you're careful. Just don't thrash the gasket and you'll be golden.
                              \'97 Camaro 3.8L

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