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  • well i cant find this anywhere so...MSD!

    I need the wiring diagram for a 3.4L MSD DIS-4 Install.

    the Technical Database..i think thats where it is... has the one for the 3.8, but not the 3.4.

    I FINALLY GOT AN MSD!! :-D but i want to install it like right now, but dont know how..the instructions are actually pretty straight forward, but id like to do it right the first time. anyway..

    thanks

    -R

    hybrid - \'\'hI-br&d - The offspring of a cross between species.
    Co-Founder West Coast F-Bodies
    West Coast F-Bodies Car Club - WCFB Message Board

  • #2
    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Russell:
    the Technical Database..i think thats where it is... has the one for the 3.8, but not the 3.4<hr></blockquote>
    It's different? A coil pack is a coil pack.
    \'94 Camaro 3.4<br />\"No, Starvin Marvin. That\'s my pot pie.\"

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    • #3
      yes. a coil pack is a coil pack. however, the ignition system in a 3.8 differs from a 3.4 there are different sensors and different wirings for those sensors as well as different wiring that goes to the ignition module. I cant use the wiring harness for the 3.8 as it would be wrong.

      i would get lots of misfires and other bad things going that route.

      -R

      p.s. for everyones fyi - i found the wiring diagram i needed. took a lot of searching. but. anyway...

      [ May 21, 2002: Message edited by: Russell ]</p>

      hybrid - \'\'hI-br&d - The offspring of a cross between species.
      Co-Founder West Coast F-Bodies
      West Coast F-Bodies Car Club - WCFB Message Board

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      • #4
        Russel where did you find the wiring diagram right now my car sounds like its missin with the way i hooked it up and i cant find a diagram that is set up right up...actually my car stalls out now
        94 Pontiac Firebird-V6<br />-NxWetKit,RamAir,MSD Dis4, Coils,&Wires,DynomaxExhuast w/testpipe,NittoDR\'s&DunlopSPort5000s,17\"CrEagleAl loys,TransgoShifKit/VetteServo<br />91 Jeep Wrangler-5.7 Chevy350<br />-6\"ProComp SuspensionLift,M/T BajaClaws35x12.5,& more goodies

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        • #5
          CALL MSD!
          There is a wiring diagram some where around on the board but it is wrong, you have to call MSD! The instructions that come with it don't work for our cars and there isn't a correct diagram online anywhere that I know of (I only found 1 for the 3.4) so just call them! It's a free call, takes 5 minutes, and they will tell you how to wire it correctly!
          <b><a href=\"http://members.cox.net/95batmobile/d86f.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Sinister Six©</b></a><br /><a href=\"http://www.sounddomain.com/id/95batmobile\" target=\"_blank\">My \'95 Bird</a><br />I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning how to sail my ship.

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          • #6
            Batmobile i understand this but the TECH LINES AT MSD are only open MONDAY THRU FRIDAY 8AM-5PM and im tryin to get my car runin again today so im kinda out of luck on the tech lines and i was hopin someone had a diagram...i understand that u said both diagrams on this site our wrong..but maybe russel had found one that worked since he said it took alot of searching.......SO I WILL CALL MSD ON MONDAY if someone doesnt have the diagram i was only hopin for a lil help sooner...thanx for the advice and im not tryin to yell back at ya or nothin im just tryin to stress the fact i hear what u are sayin but under the circumstances bein a saturday it will not help me
            94 Pontiac Firebird-V6<br />-NxWetKit,RamAir,MSD Dis4, Coils,&Wires,DynomaxExhuast w/testpipe,NittoDR\'s&DunlopSPort5000s,17\"CrEagleAl loys,TransgoShifKit/VetteServo<br />91 Jeep Wrangler-5.7 Chevy350<br />-6\"ProComp SuspensionLift,M/T BajaClaws35x12.5,& more goodies

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            • #7
              Let me see if my dad has another number for MSD, he's a certified MSD something [img]tongue.gif[/img]
              If not I will go try to make a diagram off my car for you ok?
              It's just hard for me to make the diagram because all my wires are covered and half-way hidden hehe.
              <b><a href=\"http://members.cox.net/95batmobile/d86f.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Sinister Six©</b></a><br /><a href=\"http://www.sounddomain.com/id/95batmobile\" target=\"_blank\">My \'95 Bird</a><br />I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning how to sail my ship.

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              • #8
                thanks alot man, this whole thing just bothers me that they wouldnt give you the correct diagram when u spend $350 on a box thats should work with the instructions.........i do appreciate it
                94 Pontiac Firebird-V6<br />-NxWetKit,RamAir,MSD Dis4, Coils,&Wires,DynomaxExhuast w/testpipe,NittoDR\'s&DunlopSPort5000s,17\"CrEagleAl loys,TransgoShifKit/VetteServo<br />91 Jeep Wrangler-5.7 Chevy350<br />-6\"ProComp SuspensionLift,M/T BajaClaws35x12.5,& more goodies

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                • #9
                  ok well my dad isn't home and I can't get to my wires right now, they're inside of a wire loom that is taped and zip-tied up so I am going to go to kragens and get some electrical tape cause I don't have any here and see if I have any zip ties then I can safely open the wireloom, otherwise if I leave it untaped and unziped I could have wires getting caught in my belt [img]smile.gif[/img]
                  <b><a href=\"http://members.cox.net/95batmobile/d86f.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Sinister Six©</b></a><br /><a href=\"http://www.sounddomain.com/id/95batmobile\" target=\"_blank\">My \'95 Bird</a><br />I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning how to sail my ship.

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                  • #10
                    alright...well i really do appreciate your help
                    94 Pontiac Firebird-V6<br />-NxWetKit,RamAir,MSD Dis4, Coils,&Wires,DynomaxExhuast w/testpipe,NittoDR\'s&DunlopSPort5000s,17\"CrEagleAl loys,TransgoShifKit/VetteServo<br />91 Jeep Wrangler-5.7 Chevy350<br />-6\"ProComp SuspensionLift,M/T BajaClaws35x12.5,& more goodies

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                    • #11
                      Ok here we go.
                      I just got what was connected to my coil packs, I think there are a few wires that don't go to anything and probably a ground wire or 2, but I am guessing this is the biggest deal right here. If there are extra wires that you don't know where they go, tell me what color they are and I will go look for them.

                      Now this is from my point of view, so if you have the coil interface units already installed on your car, this is going from LEFT to RIGHT (driver side to passenger side).

                      For the CIU on coil pack 2/5:
                      White*: Goes to 2 Black/Red wires
                      Black*: Goes to 2 red wires
                      Black: Yellow
                      White: Black/Yellow

                      For the CIU on coil pack 3/6:
                      White: Black/Green
                      Black: Green
                      Black: Goes with the 2 red wires from Black* above
                      White: Goes with the 2 Black/Red wires from White* above

                      For the CIU on coil pack 1/4:
                      White: Black/White
                      Black: White
                      Black: Goes with the 2 Red wires from Black* above
                      White: Goes with the 2 Black/Red wires from White* above.

                      See the first one is a bastard one, which is what was giving us trouble... it's backwards from the other 2. That is probably why yours is sputtering because you have them all uniform... try this and let me know how it works.

                      [ March 06, 2004, 07:25 PM: Message edited by: 95Batmobile ]
                      <b><a href=\"http://members.cox.net/95batmobile/d86f.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Sinister Six©</b></a><br /><a href=\"http://www.sounddomain.com/id/95batmobile\" target=\"_blank\">My \'95 Bird</a><br />I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning how to sail my ship.

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                      • #12
                        any update?
                        is your car working?
                        <b><a href=\"http://members.cox.net/95batmobile/d86f.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Sinister Six©</b></a><br /><a href=\"http://www.sounddomain.com/id/95batmobile\" target=\"_blank\">My \'95 Bird</a><br />I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning how to sail my ship.

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                        • #13
                          the car made a really really bad scream when i did it that way'
                          94 Pontiac Firebird-V6<br />-NxWetKit,RamAir,MSD Dis4, Coils,&Wires,DynomaxExhuast w/testpipe,NittoDR\'s&DunlopSPort5000s,17\"CrEagleAl loys,TransgoShifKit/VetteServo<br />91 Jeep Wrangler-5.7 Chevy350<br />-6\"ProComp SuspensionLift,M/T BajaClaws35x12.5,& more goodies

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                          • #14
                            scream?
                            What do you mean?
                            that's exactly how its hooked up on my car and running perfect...
                            <b><a href=\"http://members.cox.net/95batmobile/d86f.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Sinister Six©</b></a><br /><a href=\"http://www.sounddomain.com/id/95batmobile\" target=\"_blank\">My \'95 Bird</a><br />I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning how to sail my ship.

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                            • #15
                              i think somethins out of wack on my car now....it always sounded like metal rubbin metal....but it like trys really hard to start smells like raw gas not burnin made weird suction sound pop last time i tryed startin it
                              94 Pontiac Firebird-V6<br />-NxWetKit,RamAir,MSD Dis4, Coils,&Wires,DynomaxExhuast w/testpipe,NittoDR\'s&DunlopSPort5000s,17\"CrEagleAl loys,TransgoShifKit/VetteServo<br />91 Jeep Wrangler-5.7 Chevy350<br />-6\"ProComp SuspensionLift,M/T BajaClaws35x12.5,& more goodies

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