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  • #31
    The FMU is designed to give you more fuel than the injectors normally could. It does this by raising the fuel pressure. The PCM does not communicate with the FMU so it tries to add fuel the only way it can. Once the injectors go static, the PCM cannot add any more fuel. That is when the FMU increases fuel pressure to give you more fuel. In theory, it should work fine. The only problem is it is a very rough adjustment. The Dyno should tell you how good a job it is doing.

    The only other option is to increase the injector size. This will help with low boost (don’t ask me how much) however, once you max out your Mass Air Flow Sensor (MAF), the car uses Manifold Air Pressure (MAP) to add fuel. Our MAP sensors only go to 1 bar (zero boost). You can get a 2 bar MAP and then HP Tuners has a PCM mod that will add 2 bar support to your PCM. I think it costs $299. So, you would need bigger injectrs and a modified PCM.

    If the FMU is working for you, stick with it. If you want to tweek every HP out of the car, spend the $1000+ to make it perfect ($549 HP Tuners with EIO, $315 Wide Band O2, $75 used injectors, $45 injector connector adapters, $299 2 Bar MAP program)

    However, after writing all this, I see you have a 1996. You do not need to go to the drive by wire but you would need to go to the 1997 PCM (which I think is not a drive by wire but I might be wrong). A few people have changed to a 1997 PCM and it works but again, I could be wrong.

    Regardless, the above info is accurate if anybody with a 1997+ wants to get rid of the FMU.
    2001 Firebird 3.8L V6 M5,<br />It once had....<br />NX Nitrous Wet Kit, ZZP X-P Hot Cam, <br />3.42 LSD, Pacesetter Headers, <br />36# Injectors, HP Tuners<br />322 RWHP, 379 RWTQ<br />13.596 @ 102.56 w/100 shot

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    • #32
      ssms5411..with your mods id get bigger injectors anyway..i think you just about max them out with the 9 lb. powerdyne alone nevermind the cam/other mods..you'd still need to keep the FMU to raise the fuel pressure..but then the injectors not being able to take it would be one less headache to worry about..plus since you run a power adder you wouldnt have to worry about NA performance being harmed by adding bigger injectors..JMO [img]smile.gif[/img]
      <b>12 SECOND DUAL STAGE DRY NITROUS POWERED 98 A4 V6 CAMARO<br /><a href=\"http://www.mysickcamaro.50megs.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.MySickCamaro.50megs.com</a><br />Best ET: 12.82@103<br />Best MPH: 104.7<br />Best 60\': 1.75 - Stock TC</b><br /> </font><blockquote><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">quote:</font><hr /><font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">Originally posted by Shodown:<br /><strong>1DV6 runs 12\'s...enough said. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">

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      • #33
        I see he has HP Tuners but his car is a 1996. Do you have a 1997 PCM? If you can not program for the bigger injectors, dont do it. Just ask James how bigger injectors work without programing.
        2001 Firebird 3.8L V6 M5,<br />It once had....<br />NX Nitrous Wet Kit, ZZP X-P Hot Cam, <br />3.42 LSD, Pacesetter Headers, <br />36# Injectors, HP Tuners<br />322 RWHP, 379 RWTQ<br />13.596 @ 102.56 w/100 shot

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        • #34
          ouch..i didnt know you couldnt reprogram for bigger injectors on a 96..yeah..just read about it in the media section..NOT good..id get a 97 PCM and increase the injectors if you plan on running more power..otherwise id stay where you are
          <b>12 SECOND DUAL STAGE DRY NITROUS POWERED 98 A4 V6 CAMARO<br /><a href=\"http://www.mysickcamaro.50megs.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.MySickCamaro.50megs.com</a><br />Best ET: 12.82@103<br />Best MPH: 104.7<br />Best 60\': 1.75 - Stock TC</b><br /> </font><blockquote><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">quote:</font><hr /><font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">Originally posted by Shodown:<br /><strong>1DV6 runs 12\'s...enough said. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">

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          • #35
            I have a 97' pcm in my car and I'm using the Hptuner software. I think I will take arthansen advice and see what it does on the dyno first. I was just scared that my fuel rail while around 8-11 psi of boost hits over 100 psi on the rail. My fuel pressure gauge only goes to 100 psi and it sits there most of the time while I'm under boost. I think it is a 6:1 fmu. I know that can't be good.
            08' L76 6.0L 4X4 Chevy EXT.Cab LTZ Vortec MAX with Snug top cover, Dynomax exhaust,Hptuners& K&N intake
            96' Camaro M5 to A4 conversion, alot of mods . GT35R Turbo full suspension. Built engine

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            • #36
              Just have a fire extinguisher standing by.

              Oh, and for once, I am not kidding!
              2001 Firebird 3.8L V6 M5,<br />It once had....<br />NX Nitrous Wet Kit, ZZP X-P Hot Cam, <br />3.42 LSD, Pacesetter Headers, <br />36# Injectors, HP Tuners<br />322 RWHP, 379 RWTQ<br />13.596 @ 102.56 w/100 shot

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