Help plz!! My Car Is screwed

[90RSV6]

Alright so yesterday i was going down the road and took a corner a little fast in my 90 rs camaro and in the middle of the corner my car died, i pulled over and tried to start it and nothing happens no sound no dimming of lights no change in amp gauge. I towed it upto my house and have tried charging the battery, new battery, and checked all electrical plugs and found few unpluged but plugged them back in. what could this be and how do i fix it? this is the second time this has done this, the first time I spent all day working on it in a parking lot then towed it home when i finally gave up and as soon as i parked it in the drive way it fired right up.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

out of gas?

im not sure about the stalling but it sounds like you need a new starter

[tWiStEdBird]

Hmm, starter maybe? Make sure the connections are all snug, and have the starter tested while your at it.

[HBHRacing]

A starter problem will NOT kill the motor. the starter could be removed after it;s running and it would not effect it. your going to have to start somewhere tho.

I'm working on a tech article for a no start no crank. Here is the first bit on it. I still have yet to finish all of it.


This article will help you with testing the starter operation and wiring for a no crank situation.


It is very easy to miss diagnose a starter issue and replace the wrong parts. With this article you can test each component and find the part at fault. This will apply to almost any vehicle but it aimed specifically at GM vehicles.


Before we begin. If you have an aftermarket alarm system that contains a starter kill or enable relay you might want to bypass this function to make sure that it is not causing your no crank issue.

Another thing to consider is a factory antitheft system such as the pass lock/passkey systems otherwise known to GM as VATS. When you have a pass key fault that will prevent starter cranking you will usually have a flashing security light on the dash. If this light is present then the passkey fault is actively preventing your vehicle from starting and must be repaired.

Things you will need
Jack
Jack stands
Digital volt meter (DVM)


To gain access to the starter is will usually be necessary to jack the car up in the air. Please use caution and use the correct equipment to raise the car in a secure manor


Checking for ground


Ground for The starter is supplied from the metal-to-metal contact to the block of the motor. The first step is to test the starter for ground. Set your voltmeter to volts scale and place the red lead on the positive battery terminal. Now hold the black lead onto the body of the starter. You should read full ground. If you do not you might have to clean the contact where the starter bolts to the block or find a bad motor ground.


Checking for main hot

There will be a large wire running from the positive battery terminal to the starter. This is the main hot feed providing the starter with power. In order to get proper operation of the starter you must have battery voltage on this wire. To test place the red probe of your meter on the negative battery terminal. Then probe the wire with the red probe. You should see 12 volts or higher. If you have less then 12 volts then take a reading at the battery and make sure that your battery is not low. If you have battery voltage at the battery but less at the starter you need to inspect the cable and ends for corrosion. Any corrosion needs to be brushed off and cleaned well, there could also be corrosion inside the cable where you can not see it. After you have cleaned it off retest and make sure that you now have battery voltage at the starter wire. If the battery voltage is low please see “checking charging system” below.


Checking for starter solenoid power


The other wire at the starter will be a much smaller wire. This is the solenoid wire. When hot it will allow voltage from the main wire into the motor to spin the starter. This is a hot signal witch comes from the ignition switch.


Thats all That I have so far. I am working on the rest to test why the selinoid wire would not be gtting power. once it's done it can be found in the "tech Articles" link in my sig.


But make sure then what you trun the key to on that the dash lights up like normal. tell me if it;s not

[98_birdman]

Harlan, you must get some more "do it yourself" mods in your tech article section if you can think of any

[ellik]

what does your engine have for an ignition system? does it use a distributer? If so, simply replacing the distributer cap may be the solution. Sounds like the same symptoms I had in a little dodge that I owned.

[90RSV6]

hmmm, dont know where to start...and yes i have gas. i have tested the starter and it is good. could it be the alternator? any other suggestions?

[98_birdman]

bad alt. wouldnt make it die from cornering hard either, you've got a more major problem on your hands im assuming

[FunkZ]

Does it crank? Is it getting spark to the plugs? Fuel? Is there a fuel shut-off switch on the car?

[93camaro_zzz]

Originally posted by HBHRacing:
A starter problem will NOT kill the motor. the starter could be removed after it;s running and it would not effect it. your going to have to start somewhere tho.

I'm working on a tech article for a no start no crank. Here is the first bit on it. I still have yet to finish all of it.


This article will help you with testing the starter operation and wiring for a no crank situation.


It is very easy to miss diagnose a starter issue and replace the wrong parts. With this article you can test each component and find the part at fault. This will apply to almost any vehicle but it aimed specifically at GM vehicles.


Before we begin. If you have an aftermarket alarm system that contains a starter kill or enable relay you might want to bypass this function to make sure that it is not causing your no crank issue.

Another thing to consider is a factory antitheft system such as the pass lock/passkey systems otherwise known to GM as VATS. When you have a pass key fault that will prevent starter cranking you will usually have a flashing security light on the dash. If this light is present then the passkey fault is actively preventing your vehicle from starting and must be repaired.

Things you will need
Jack
Jack stands
Digital volt meter (DVM)


To gain access to the starter is will usually be necessary to jack the car up in the air. Please use caution and use the correct equipment to raise the car in a secure manor


Checking for ground


Ground for The starter is supplied from the metal-to-metal contact to the block of the motor. The first step is to test the starter for ground. Set your voltmeter to volts scale and place the red lead on the positive battery terminal. Now hold the black lead onto the body of the starter. You should read full ground. If you do not you might have to clean the contact where the starter bolts to the block or find a bad motor ground.


Checking for main hot

There will be a large wire running from the positive battery terminal to the starter. This is the main hot feed providing the starter with power. In order to get proper operation of the starter you must have battery voltage on this wire. To test place the red probe of your meter on the negative battery terminal. Then probe the wire with the red probe. You should see 12 volts or higher. If you have less then 12 volts then take a reading at the battery and make sure that your battery is not low. If you have battery voltage at the battery but less at the starter you need to inspect the cable and ends for corrosion. Any corrosion needs to be brushed off and cleaned well, there could also be corrosion inside the cable where you can not see it. After you have cleaned it off retest and make sure that you now have battery voltage at the starter wire. If the battery voltage is low please see “checking charging system” below.


Checking for starter solenoid power


The other wire at the starter will be a much smaller wire. This is the solenoid wire. When hot it will allow voltage from the main wire into the motor to spin the starter. This is a hot signal witch comes from the ignition switch.


Thats all That I have so far. I am working on the rest to test why the selinoid wire would not be gtting power. once it's done it can be found in the "tech Articles" link in my sig.


But make sure then what you trun the key to on that the dash lights up like normal. tell me if it;s not

Did you actually write all of that???