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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by MustangEater8251: Exactly my thoughts...
But then again this board has always been kind of crappy for the 3.4L anyways...<hr></blockquote>
More like 3.4 guys try and contstantly claim how great their 60 degree motor is and how superior it is to the 90 degree 3.8..
People try and give advice but then no.. oh.. they are ragging on 3.4's.. my *** . Get real.
FYI.. how much would it cost to do intake and headers on a 3.4.. maybe $700? If you could drop in a 3.8 for $600 and pick up 40rwhp instantly with much more potential, is that not worth it?
or is that just worthy of being laughed at cause your swapping a V6 for a V6.. yet you're getting much more HP/$$$..
FWIW, I was able to sell all my V6 mods to do a stock LS1 swap for free.. it was an even trade.
Its up to the individual to determine what is best for them. Its a shame certain members have to be offended by constructive recomendation.
Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
Its up to the individual to determine what is best for them. Its a shame certain members have to be offended by constructive recomendation.<hr></blockquote>
I agree totally
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
More like 3.4 guys try and contstantly claim how great their 60 degree motor is and how superior it is to the 90 degree 3.8..
People try and give advice but then no.. oh.. they are ragging on 3.4's.. my *** . Get real.
FYI.. how much would it cost to do intake and headers on a 3.4.. maybe $700? If you could drop in a 3.8 for $600 and pick up 40rwhp instantly with much more potential, is that not worth it?
or is that just worthy of being laughed at cause your swapping a V6 for a V6.. yet you're getting much more HP/$$$..
FWIW, I was able to sell all my V6 mods to do a stock LS1 swap for free.. it was an even trade.
Its up to the individual to determine what is best for them. Its a shame certain members have to be offended by constructive recomendation.<hr></blockquote>
No one ever said the 3.4L was superior thent he 3.8L but the more of 3.4L owners saying that the 3.8L is not the god send of motors on the planet.
Its more of a fact if you are going to the trouble of a Motor swap as intricate as a 3.4L to 3.8L it woudl be dumb not to go bigger to lt1.
Lets say it costs, $600 for the stuff needed for a 3.8L swap(which I think is too low), and it costs abotu $1,000 for the stuff needed for an LT1 swap.
You do the 3.8L swap, no way $400 worth of mods on the 3.8L is going to make you evenly matched with a LT1, now is it.
Best bang for the buck on a motor swap is going to be to go higher, with an lt1. Its inhererently easier to do a 3.4L->Lt1 swap then a 3.4L->3.8L swap. Like I said earlier, there are some interchangeable parts betweena 3.4L and the lt1, but nearly none on a 3.4L and 3.8L.
In the end I think you woudl be spending nearly the same money to go to a 3.8L as it woudl cost to go to a Lt1.
hence why doing a 3.4L to 3.8L swap is dumb, the difference in the end is not that great, would be better to mod the 3.4L to average 3.8L territory, then do a lt1 swap, then to go to a 3.8L.
3.4Ls raggin on 3.8Ls? Where does that happen. I see a thread of how to get power out of my 3.4L and 3.8L owners coming in and saying, get a 3.8L. Ignoring what the question was. Question was not how to get 40 more hp out of my car was, how to get 200 hp out of my 3.4L
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by 93v6firebird:
I think its funny you call me stupid. Maybe one day I'll hire your fatass to work on my car.
I dont gauge my worth based on my knowledge of cars - maybe I should start gauging it on how much better I am than people like you tho.
Get off your egomaniac highhorse.
Also stop trying to pull vocab words out of your *** because for you to call me a sophomore, which in fact I was last year, while knowing I am a college student - and then attempting to correct me by using an incorrect form of a word, just shows how incompetent you really are. A sophomore means nothing except for being in the second year of school, a project. However the form of the word I believe you meant to use was "sophomoric" which means immature and inexperienced. Many people believe that sophomore actually refers to immaturity, however in fact it is only sophomoric that actually refers to having limited knowledge because of the limited time spent in pursuit of said knowledge. Maybe you'd know this if you ever got past your sophomore year of tech school?
You seem to have a surfeit of erroneous platitudes that you regard to be apropos to annotate my psyche, however I adduce a rival hypothesis. You are attempting to obfuscae the verisimilitude of my intellect, with sophomoric allusions to my mother and other impertinent topics.
Now, Mr. Fatass... that is the correct usage of sophomoric.
Care to challenge me to a "wah wah wah I wish I was wittier than you are" battle again?
If you want your mom to help you look up those words, I'll tell her to get her clothes on and get to your place immediately.
[ October 30, 2003: Message edited by: 93v6firebird ]<hr></blockquote>
heh. you really think youa re funny. yanno. im surprised with posts like this, that you havent been stripped of your title already.
what exactly do you contribute to the firebirdv6.com community?
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Mikael: Its been done. Took every bolt on, but stock heads/cam, etc. 200rwhp that is. Tim LeGros (i think was his name)<hr></blockquote>
Yup, Tim LeGros (aka SoSlow) with just about every bolt-on available, including both a Hypertech programmer and a Jet Stage 2 module. The motor internals were stock.
LT1 swap will take a little bit more work than a 3.8 swap..
It's just a recomendation to those who want to be unique with a V6.. if you really want to have a fast unique V6.. then start with a better foundation.
Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus: if you really want to have a fast unique V6.. then start with a better foundation.<hr></blockquote>
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