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For all of you that have it, what kind of gains can i expect, am i gonna like it is it worth the money, and i'm going to the track this friday, what kind of improvement can i expect??? Thanx [img]smile.gif[/img]
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2002 Red M6 T/A<p>Heads, cam, blah blah...<br />427 rwhp and 401 rwtq - For now -
Don't expect to plug it in and be blown away by it. The best aspect to the Programmer is the ability to change your transmission shift points, and top end speed limiter. The power gains are respectable, 12 HP and 19 ft.lbs. of torque, but that's not really enough that you could tell a difference in everyday driving.
When you take it to the track, make one run with the programmer, then uninstall it and run stock. Post the E.T. difference on here.2001 A4 Pewter 75th Anniversary W68 Firebird<br />1997 Dodge Ram Extended Cab 360 CID<br />1996 Ford Explorer V6<br /><i><b>Any number you can think of, I can think of one higher.</b></i><br /><a href=\"http://www.criesmusic.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.criesmusic.com</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.mp3.com/beneaththestage\" target=\"_blank\">www.mp3.com/beneaththestage</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.thenebula.com/carpics/pics/Silver3800V6Picturescar6.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.thenebula.com/carpics/pics/Silver3800V6Picturescar6.jpg</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.thenebula.com/carpics/pics/Silver3800V6Picturescar4.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.thenebula.com/carpics/pics/Silver3800V6Picturescar4.jpg</a><br />AIM: Guitarchitect201 -
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Silver3800V6FBodyKY:
When you take it to the track, make one run with the programmer, then uninstall it and run stock. Post the E.T. difference on here.<hr></blockquote>
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The gross HP gains are in the area of 5% plus or minus a little. In terms of enhanced performance what the HPP3 does is maximize the timing curve. If you want max from the HPP3 select the 93 Octane version of the program. Of course, be sure you run 93 octane or above fuel. Since you have a manual trans you will not benefit from reprograming the shift points. Other pluses though, are changing the speed limiter, compensating for non-stock tires and rear-end, and setting the cooling fans on/off temperatures.2001 Camaro M5 Coupe(1 of 2,737), no options, Whisper Lid, K&N Air Filter, Free Ram Air, MAFS Screen removed, SLP Manual Fan Switch, 160 thermo, DEE\'s T/B Spacer, EGR Block-off plate, IAT resistor, CAI to EGR air feed, B&M Ripper Shifter, SLP Replacement Grill, T/A Exhaust, SLP five spoke take-off wheels, BMR strut-tower brace, BMR Tunnel Brace, BMR 32/21 front & rear sway bars with poly, BMR Poly/Combo Rear Control Arms, Clear front & rear corners, HPP3 modified 87 Octane program.<p><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/red2k1\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/red2k1</a>Comment
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Where did you purchase your HPP3 from?Red \'99 3.8<br />Induction: SLP Cold Air Intake, K&N Air Filter, Whisper Lid<br />Ignition: Taylor Spiro-Pro Wires, Bosch Platinum 2 Plugs<br />Suspension: Power Slot Rotors, Hawk HPS Pads, Mille Miglia MM11-2 18x9, Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 245/40-18Comment
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Directly from Hypertech. They haven't released it yet to the general public. They are Beta Tests. The price is $450. I was told that they could released them tomorrow, or next year - so I decided not to wait and went ahead and ordered directly from them.2001 A4 Pewter 75th Anniversary W68 Firebird<br />1997 Dodge Ram Extended Cab 360 CID<br />1996 Ford Explorer V6<br /><i><b>Any number you can think of, I can think of one higher.</b></i><br /><a href=\"http://www.criesmusic.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.criesmusic.com</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.mp3.com/beneaththestage\" target=\"_blank\">www.mp3.com/beneaththestage</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.thenebula.com/carpics/pics/Silver3800V6Picturescar6.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.thenebula.com/carpics/pics/Silver3800V6Picturescar6.jpg</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.thenebula.com/carpics/pics/Silver3800V6Picturescar4.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.thenebula.com/carpics/pics/Silver3800V6Picturescar4.jpg</a><br />AIM: Guitarchitect201Comment
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Silver3800V6FBodyKY:
The price is $450. <hr></blockquote>
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98 Firebird - gone from mod mode to keep it running and useable mode.
2000 V-Star Custom 1100
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Yeah i got it in this morning, and i installed it... Seems ok, can notice alittle more power but nothing to brag about, i'm just glad i dont have the damn speed and rev limiters anymore...2002 Red M6 T/A<p>Heads, cam, blah blah...<br />427 rwhp and 401 rwtq - For nowComment
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I've noticed an .5 - 1.0 MPG increase in the time that I've owned my HPP3. Also, when you set the fan temps lower, don't be fooled by the temp gauge in the cluster.... it's way off.Jason McCallister, Founder & Webmaster<br /><a href=\"http://www.wtfba.org\" target=\"_blank\">West Tennessee F-Body Association, Inc.</a><br /><br />2000 Camaro - <a href=\"http://www.wtfba.org/site/view_member.php?ID=68\" target=\"_blank\">Details</a>Comment
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although the price on this is outrageous (you can get a craftsman 1-channel auto-ranging oscilloscope for like $299, for comparison...) i think the ability to change cooling fan activation temps is pretty cool. now with a 180 or 160 stat you dont need a manual switch to control fan operation to keep temps low in traffic. the hpp will program pcm to turn on the fans at lower temp for you...
theoretically, autotap and autoxray could come up with flash software that would do the same thing if they wanted to. i'm sure there are licensing issues and all kinds of legal stuff involved which may be why hypertech hasn't really "released" these yet...
btw magnus how are you coming with figuring out the PCM project you were working on???
[ June 28, 2002: Message edited by: strange_trp ]</p>ASE Master, L1, X1, C1. Instructor in automotive systems. 99 3800 4L60E with a few mods and a greatful dead sticker on the back window.Comment
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Does the HPP3 have to stay plugged in once you program it, or do you just have it hooked up to make changes? Also, does anyone know if HPP3s are set up specifically for LS1s and L36s, or are they programmed to handle any F-Body?Wife and a dog, they both think they\'re Kujo.<br /> <br />1999 3.8 A4 Y87<br />Navy Blue Metallic<br />BFG G-Force KDWS 275/40/17s, <br />WS6 Wheels (17x9)<br />Phoenix Transmissions 2400 Stall Converter<br />FRA, Holley Powershot filter, Whisper Lid, Ported Throttlebody<br />2000 manifolds, Flowmaster, WS6 Tail Pipes, <br />MSD 8.5mm Wires, MSD Coils, Autolite plugs<br />Performance Cryogenics treated rotors<br />1LE Sway Bars and panhard rod, 1LE front springs w/SLP Bilsteins, stock rear springs w/ 3rd Gen Bilsteins, BMR STB, KBDD SFCs, 1LE rear lower control arms, 1LE front lower control arms<p>1968 Chevelle Malibu 327 TH350Comment
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""Does the HPP3 have to stay plugged in once you program it, or do you just have it hooked up to make changes? Also, does anyone know if HPP3s are set up specifically for LS1s and L36s, or are they programmed to handle any F-Body? "
No, just program and pull. HPP3s are engine specific. That is by year, size, and engine management system.2001 Camaro M5 Coupe(1 of 2,737), no options, Whisper Lid, K&N Air Filter, Free Ram Air, MAFS Screen removed, SLP Manual Fan Switch, 160 thermo, DEE\'s T/B Spacer, EGR Block-off plate, IAT resistor, CAI to EGR air feed, B&M Ripper Shifter, SLP Replacement Grill, T/A Exhaust, SLP five spoke take-off wheels, BMR strut-tower brace, BMR Tunnel Brace, BMR 32/21 front & rear sway bars with poly, BMR Poly/Combo Rear Control Arms, Clear front & rear corners, HPP3 modified 87 Octane program.<p><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/red2k1\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/red2k1</a>Comment
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Cool, thanks.Wife and a dog, they both think they\'re Kujo.<br /> <br />1999 3.8 A4 Y87<br />Navy Blue Metallic<br />BFG G-Force KDWS 275/40/17s, <br />WS6 Wheels (17x9)<br />Phoenix Transmissions 2400 Stall Converter<br />FRA, Holley Powershot filter, Whisper Lid, Ported Throttlebody<br />2000 manifolds, Flowmaster, WS6 Tail Pipes, <br />MSD 8.5mm Wires, MSD Coils, Autolite plugs<br />Performance Cryogenics treated rotors<br />1LE Sway Bars and panhard rod, 1LE front springs w/SLP Bilsteins, stock rear springs w/ 3rd Gen Bilsteins, BMR STB, KBDD SFCs, 1LE rear lower control arms, 1LE front lower control arms<p>1968 Chevelle Malibu 327 TH350Comment
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