Headers or Hypertech?

[FloydSummerOf68]

For the price, I was thinking my next mod would either be throw on some ceramic coated pacesetters or get a HPP3. Any opinions on this?

[CamaroRob97]

I would get headers, the HPP3 doesnt work righton our cars.

[Red2K1]

If those are the only two choices, then I would go with headers and then the HPP3. However, before I would put on headers, I would get a high flow cat if you don't have one already.

The HPP3 has worked okay for me.

[nino]

headers fo sho

[ReodDai]

Headers then go buy a maft+ its worth more performance wise.

[sac2165]

Since we've got the tubular manifolds already, I don't think you'll see much of a gain with the headers. I like the options my HPP3 has, but I've never been to the dyno to verify any numbers.

I think you'll be happier with the HPP3 [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

[Jason McCallister]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by CamaroRob97:
I would get headers, the HPP3 doesnt work righton our cars.<hr></blockquote>

That is just his opinion... remember that.
I have dyno proof it works well on my car.

Base your decision on your needs... not your wants.

[FloydSummerOf68]

I probably will go for headers...if nothing else then i'll atleast have bragging rights. :cool: Any reason you think I should get the cat before the headers Red2k1? And I've seen a lot of people talking about a maft+ in other posts. What exactly is that? Maybe i know what it is and just dont know the name or something....who knows. Also, you said you had dyno proven gains...could you tell me what you gained? That would help out a lot. Thanks anyway for your replies.

[ November 10, 2003: Message edited by: FloydSummerOf68 ]</p>

[nino]

they are both a good choice in my opinion, but then, who am i?

[97 30th RS]

the funy thing is you could almost get pacesetter headers and the hi flow cat, for the cost of the hypertech.

[ReodDai]

MAFT+ .. MAF Translator plus... it changes WOT and base a/f ratios and ignition timing.

[Jason McCallister]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by FloydSummerOf68:
Also, you said you had dyno proven gains...could you tell me what you gained?<hr></blockquote>

This would be easier... ;)
http://www.camarov6.com/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=1&t=009691

Edit: Oh... I originally posted 197.7 RWHP in that other thread but it's actually 197.4 RWHP! :rolleyes: :D

[ November 10, 2003: Message edited by: Jason McCallister ]</p>

[FloydSummerOf68]

Those are nice numbers...nice enough to make me reconsider what mod i want to do next...I was also pleased to see a dyno run with the borla closed and open...because I have that exhaust...glad to see gains with it open :D
Thanks for the #'s
Oh and one more thing...how does the powerprogrammer work with headers? I heard its mainly just for minor exhaust work...thats what the people at hypertech told me anyway...any ideas on that one? Thanks

[Jason McCallister]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>how does the powerprogrammer work with headers? I heard its mainly just for minor exhaust work...thats what the people at hypertech told me anyway...any ideas on that one? <hr></blockquote>

I don't have dyno numbers with the headers yet so I can't give any accurate answers for that question. I will have dyno numbers in the spring when I have another dyno session with Hypertech. I will post the results when the event happens.

The HPP3 was designed for stock/near stock vehicles in mind. The A/F curves they program into the programmer is based on stock vehicles. When you make exhaust, intake, and/or internal motor modifications, you just changed the A/F curves. In some instances, the HPP3 A/F curves will not be compatible with your A/F needs. Make sense?

[FloydSummerOf68]

Yeah...makes sense. Thanks for the input. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]