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  • Y87 sport steering ratio (14.4:1 vs. the regular 16.9:1)

    is the Y87 sport steering lighter,heavier than standard?
    Is it a such choice because Y87 've got larger tires (235/55R16) ?
    Is there a RPO code for the sport steering ratio moreover the Y87 ?
    (The only thing I know is that you never know: the european version got RPO U80 standard : Zexen Torsen)

    Is to a good choice to upgrade the steering box?
    99\' Camaro M5 3.23 LSD<br />-SLP CAI,K&N,Whisper Lid,!MAF Screen<br />-2\'5 Flowmaster Catback <br />-BMR STB<br />-Kumho 712 supra 245/50/16<br /> <a href=\"http://www.camaroV6.fr\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.camaroV6.fr</a>

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    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by FRENCH_CAMAROV6:
    is the Y87 sport steering lighter,heavier than standard?
    Is it a such choice because Y87 've got larger tires (235/55R16) ?
    Is there a RPO code for the sport steering ratio moreover the Y87 ?
    (The only thing I know is that you never know: the european version got RPO U80 standard : Zexen Torsen)

    Is to a good choice to upgrade the steering box?
    <hr></blockquote>

    It is "quicker", and was standard on the V8 cars. The simplest way is to replace the entire rack. The Y87 package included the V8 steering rack, there is no RPO just for the rack.

    This is all discussed in the Technical Database.

    [ November 25, 2003: Message edited by: FirebirdGT ]</p>
    Robert - owner www.FirebirdV6.com/CamaroV6.com

    "Mid-life crisis? I'm way beyond that!"

    1996 Black Firebird GTxxxRam Air V6 w/ M5xxxwww.FirebirdGT.com

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    • #3
      <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by FirebirdGT:

      This is all discussed in the Technical Database.
      [ November 25, 2003: Message edited by: FirebirdGT ]
      <hr></blockquote>

      well not all...

      the difference between Y87 Steering Box and a entire rack?

      Is it easy to mount?
      99\' Camaro M5 3.23 LSD<br />-SLP CAI,K&N,Whisper Lid,!MAF Screen<br />-2\'5 Flowmaster Catback <br />-BMR STB<br />-Kumho 712 supra 245/50/16<br /> <a href=\"http://www.camaroV6.fr\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.camaroV6.fr</a>

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      • #4
        <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by FRENCH_CAMAROV6:


        well not all...

        the difference between Y87 Steering Box and a entire rack?

        Is it easy to mount?
        <hr></blockquote>

        There is no "steering box" on a F-body, it is a steering rack.
        Robert - owner www.FirebirdV6.com/CamaroV6.com

        "Mid-life crisis? I'm way beyond that!"

        1996 Black Firebird GTxxxRam Air V6 w/ M5xxxwww.FirebirdGT.com

        Raven

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        • #5
          ok thanks, someone on the 'for sell' section sells a Y87 steering box...
          I wanted to know where was that box...
          all right! it's the entire rack...too difficult for me to put it on my car
          There's really a huge difference between the two ratios?
          99\' Camaro M5 3.23 LSD<br />-SLP CAI,K&N,Whisper Lid,!MAF Screen<br />-2\'5 Flowmaster Catback <br />-BMR STB<br />-Kumho 712 supra 245/50/16<br /> <a href=\"http://www.camaroV6.fr\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.camaroV6.fr</a>

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          • #6
            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by FRENCH_CAMAROV6:
            it's the entire rack...too difficult for me to put it on my car
            There's really a huge difference between the two ratios?
            <hr></blockquote>

            I can't speak for the difference in the ratios, but I would assume unless you are planning autocross or something along the lines the tighter steering has no true advantage. I'm sure it has its pluses and minuses for every aspect though.

            As for the install, it is not a major pain. I wrote up a how too not long ago. Gives all the tools needed and pretty much step by step instructions, no pictures sorry. If you are somewhat mechanically inclined it can be done with relative ease in a few hours or less.

            http://www.camarov6.com/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=2&t=002569

            [ November 25, 2003: Message edited by: camarofan ]</p>

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            • #7
              I wish I had it. My Camaro takes 50 acres to make a U-turn. And parking lots are a PITA! It's a 97 non-tight steering ratio btw...

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              • #8
                "I wish I had it. My Camaro takes 50 acres to make a U-turn."

                The rack doesn't change the turning circle. That's set by the wheelbase and how much clearance the front wheels have.
                2000 Firebird convert, chameleon/tan, M5, Y87, TCS, BMR tower brace and panhard, KBDD sfcs, 245/50-16 GSCs

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                • #9
                  <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by V6Bob:
                  "I wish I had it. My Camaro takes 50 acres to make a U-turn."

                  The rack doesn't change the turning circle. That's set by the wheelbase and how much clearance the front wheels have.
                  <hr></blockquote>

                  You &gt; [img]graemlins/slap.gif[/img] &lt; Me [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] So what do the numbers mean 14.whatever:1 and 16:xx? I thought the Z28 steering would allow you to crank the wheel a littl further. [img]graemlins/dunce.gif[/img]

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                  • #10
                    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by camaroincal:
                    So what do the numbers mean 14.whatever:1 and 16:xx? I thought the Z28 steering would allow you to crank the wheel a littl further. [img]graemlins/dunce.gif[/img] <hr></blockquote>

                    The ratio determines how many turns of the steering wheel it takes to turn the tires. ;) It takes more turns of the steering wheel for us to do a full lock-to-lock than it does a V8 rack.

                    [ November 26, 2003: Message edited by: Jason McCallister ]</p>
                    Jason McCallister, Founder & Webmaster<br /><a href=\"http://www.wtfba.org\" target=\"_blank\">West Tennessee F-Body Association, Inc.</a><br /><br />2000 Camaro - <a href=\"http://www.wtfba.org/site/view_member.php?ID=68\" target=\"_blank\">Details</a>

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                    • #11
                      <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Jason McCallister:
                      The ratio determines how many turns of the steering wheel it takes to turn the tires<hr></blockquote>

                      Jason is right.


                      Y87 & V8 racks are the same. If you don't have the Y87 RPO code, then you have the "non-tight" :D steering rack.

                      & i think when ppl were discussing that "steering box" they were talking about the power steering fluid reservoir.

                      --matt

                      [ November 26, 2003: Message edited by: awesomeame ]</p>

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