Need a favor...

[thebigwaldo]

I got the dreaded SES light the other night on my way home. Dropped by the 'ol Autozone to have them scan it and see what was up.

P0300 - Multiple random misfires...

I would assume that it's those crappy plug wires going out, but I got to looking at www.alldata.com and found a service bulletin for "Revised Diagnostic Troube Code P0300 Table"

Does anyone here have the means to get a copy of this service bulletin? The # on it was 616543.

Thanks

-Jeremy

[Gmtech1005]

SMU - SECTION 6E - ENGINE CONTROLS - REVISED DTC P0300 #61-65-43 - (08/26/1996)
SUBJECT: SERVICE MANUAL UPDATE-SECTION 6E-ENGINE CONTROLS- REVISED DTC P0300 DIAGNOSTIC TABLE

MODELS: 1996-97 BUICK LESABRE, RIVIERA 1996 BUICK PARK AVENUE 1995-97 CHEVROLET CAMARO 1996 OLDSMOBILE EIGHTY EIGHT, LSS, NINETY EIGHT 1997 OLDSMOBILE EIGHTY EIGHT, LSS, REGENCY 1995-97 PONTIAC FIREBIRD 1996-97 PONTIAC BONNEVILLE WITH 3.8L ENGINE (VINS 1, K - RPOS L67, L36)

THIS BULLETIN IS BEING ISSUED TO REVISE THE DTC P0300 - ENGINE MISFIRE DETECTED DIAGNOSTIC TABLE IN ENGINE CONTROLS, SECTION 6E. THE PREVIOUS DIAGNOSTIC TABLE INCLUDED A STEP INSTRUCTING THE TECHNICIAN TO DISCONNECT THE MAF SENSOR WHILE MONITORING THE MISFIRE INFORMATION ON THE SCAN TOOL. THE MISFIRE INFORMATION ON THE SCAN TOOL WILL STOP UPDATING WITH THE MAF SENSOR DISCONNECTED. THE REVISED TABLE REMOVES STEPS INSTRUCTING THE TECHNICIAN TO DISCONNECT THE MAF SENSOR.

FIGURES: 00 ATTACHMENTS: 04

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GENERAL MOTORS BULLETINS ARE INTENDED FOR USE BY PROFESSIONAL TECHNICIANS, NOT A "DO-IT-YOURSELFER". THEY ARE WRITTEN TO INFORM THOSE TECHNICIANS OF CONDITIONS THAT MAY OCCUR ON SOME VEHICLES, OR TO PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT COULD ASSIST IN THE PROPER SERVICE OF A VEHICLE. PROPERLY TRAINED TECHNICIANS HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, TOOLS, SAFETY INSTRUCTIONS AND KNOW-HOW TO DO A JOB PROPERLY AND SAFELY. IF A CONDITION IS DESCRIBED, DO NOT ASSUME THAT THE BULLETIN APPLIES TO YOUR VEHICLE, OR THAT YOUR VEHICLE WILL HAVE THAT CONDITION. SEE A GENERAL MOTORS DEALER SERVICING YOUR BRAND OF GENERAL MOTORS VEHICLE FOR INFORMATION ON WHETHER YOUR VEHICLE MAY BENEFIT FROM THE INFORMATION.

[Gmtech1005]

This will not help you though...the figures are just gm charts badly photo-copied. I am a Tech for a pontiac dealership..now, this WILL help you. This is the REAL GM system diagnosis chart!!


DTC P0300 Engine Misfire Detected
Circuit Description
The PCM has the ability to detect a misfire by monitoring the 3X reference and camshaft position input signals from the Ignition Control Module. The PCM monitors crankshaft speed variations (reference period differences) to determine if a misfire is occurring. If 2% or more of all cylinder firing events are misfires, emission levels may exceed mandated standards. The PCM determines misfire level based on the number of misfire events monitored during a 200 engine revolution test sample. The PCM continuously tracks 16 consecutive 200 revolution test samples. If 11 or more misfires are detected during any 5 of the 16 samples, DTC P0300 will set. If the misfire is large enough to cause possible three-way catalytic converter damage, DTC P0300 may set during the first 200 revolution sample in which the misfire was detected. In the case of a catalyst damaging misfire, the MIL will flash to alert the vehicle operator of the potential of catalyst damage.

Conditions for Setting the DTC
No VSS, Transmission, TP sensor, Fuel trim, Fuel injector circuit, ECT sensor, CKP sensor CMP sensor, MAP sensor or MAF sensor DTC(s) set.
Engine speed between 550 and 5800 RPM.
System voltage between 9 and 16 volts.
The ECT sensor indicates a temperature between -7°C (19°F) and 120°C (248°F).
Throttle angle is steady.
The PCM is detecting a crankshaft RPM variation indicating a misfire sufficient to cause three-way catalytic converter damage or emissions levels that exceed the mandated standard.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
If the misfire level is non-catalyst damaging, the PCM will illuminate the MIL during the second key cycle in which the DTC sets.
If the misfire is severe enough to cause possible catalyst damage, the PCM will immediately flash the MIL while the misfire remains at catalyst damaging levels.
The PCM will disable TCC operation.
The PCM will store conditions which were present when the DTC set as Freeze Frame and Fail Records data.
Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC
The PCM will turn the MIL OFF on the third consecutive trip cycle during which the diagnostic has been run and the fault condition is no longer present.
A history DTC P0300 will clear after 40 consecutive warm-up cycles have occurred without a fault.
DTC P0300 can be cleared by using the scan tool Clear Information function or by disconnecting the PCM battery feed.
Diagnostic Aids
The scan tool provides information that can be useful in identifying the misfiring cylinder. If the DTC P0300 is currently stored as DTC status Failed Since Code Clear, the misfire history counters (Misfire History Cyl #1 - #6) will still contain a value that represents the level of misfire detected on each cylinder. The scan tool displayed misfire counter values (Misfire History Cyl. #1 through #6) can be useful in determining whether the misfire affects a single cylinder, a cylinder pair (cylinders that share an ignition coil - 1/4, 2/5, 3/6), or is random. If the largest amount of activity is isolated to a cylinder pair, check for the following conditions:

Secondary Ignition Wires. Check the secondary wires associated with the affected cylinder pair for disconnected ignition wires or for excessive resistance. The wires should measure less than 30,000 ohms (30K ohms).
Damaged Or Malfunctioning Ignition Coil. Check for cracks, carbon tracking or other damage. Also check coil secondary resistance. Secondary resistance should be between 5000 ohms and 8000 ohms (5K ohms and 8K ohms).
Substitute a Known Good Coil. Switch ignition coils and retest. If the misfire follows the coil, replace the ignition coil.
If the misfire is random, check for the following conditions:

Crankshaft Position System Variation. Refer to PCM Replacement/Programming . The crankshaft position system variation compensating values are stored in the PCM non-volatile memory after a learn procedure has been performed. If the actual crankshaft position variation is not within the crankshaft position system variation compensating values stored in the PCM, DTC P0300 may set. The crankshaft position system variation learn procedure is required when any of the following service procedures have been performed:
PCM replacement or reprogramming.
Engine replacement.
Crankshaft replacement.
Crankshaft balancer replacement.
Crankshaft position sensor replacement.
Any engine repair(s) which disturbs crankshaft/harmonic balancer to crankshaft position sensor relationship.
System Grounds. Ensure all connections are clean and properly tightened.
Mass Air Flow sensor. A Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor output that causes the PCM to sense a lower than normal air flow will cause a lean condition. Try operating the vehicle within the fail records conditions with the MAF sensor disconnected. If the lean or misfiring condition is not present with the MAF sensor disconnected, replace the MAF sensor.
Loss of EBCM/EBTCM Serial Data. If the PCM stops receiving data from the EBCM/EBTCM, DTC P0300 can set due to a loss of rough road data. Check for stored ABS/TCS DTCs, especially DTCs related to a serial data malfunction. Refer to Diagnosis in ABS/TCS.
Air Induction System. Vacuum leaks that cause intake air to bypass the MAF sensor will cause a lean condition. Check for disconnected or damaged vacuum hoses, incorrectly installed or malfunctioning crankcase ventilation valve, or for vacuum leaks at the throttle body, EGR valve, and intake manifold mounting surfaces.
Fuel Pressure. Perform a fuel system pressure test. A malfunctioning fuel pump, plugged filter, or malfunctioning fuel system pressure regulator will contribute to a lean condition. Refer to Fuel System Pressure Test .
Fuel injector(s) Refer to Fuel Injector Coil Test . Refer to Fuel Injector Coil Test .
Contaminated Fuel. Refer to Alcohol/Contaminants-in-Fuel Testing Procedure .
EGR System. Check for leaking valve, adapter, or feed pipes which will contribute to a lean condition or excessive EGR flow.
Extended Idle. Excessive open loop operation caused by extended idling or short trip driving may leave deposits on the heated oxygen sensors. The deposits cause oxygen sensors to respond slowly to exhaust oxygen content, affecting fuel control and causing a misfire to be indicated at idle. This condition is not permanent. To determine if this condition is causing the DTC P0300 to be set, review the freeze frame and fail records data for DTC P0300. If the DTC P0300 occurs at high engine speeds, the condition described above did not cause the DTC P0300 to set. If the DTC P0300 occurs at idle or very low engine speeds and at engine coolant temperatures less than 80°C (176°F), the condition described above is very likely the cause of the DTC P0300 being set. The deposits on the heated oxygen sensors can be eliminated by operating the vehicle fully warm at mass air flows above 15 gm/s.

Important
If the level of misfire was sufficient to cause possible catalyst damage (if the MIL was flashing), ensure that the DTC P0420 test is completed and passed after verifying the misfire repair.


Reviewing the Fail Records vehicle mileage since the diagnostic test last failed may help determine how often the condition that caused the DTC to be set occurs. This may assist in diagnosing the condition.

Test Description
Number(s) below refer to the step number(s) on the Diagnostic Table.

A condition that sets a DTC other than P0300 may also cause a misfire. If any of the indicated DTCs are set with DTC P0300, diagnose and repair the other DTC before using the DTC P0300 table.

The Misfire Current Cyl # display may normally display a small amount of activity (0 - 10 counts) but should not steadily increment during an entire 200 revolution test sample period.

Depending on the cause of the misfire, the Misfire History Cyl # counter will display a very large number for the misfiring cylinder(s); values for the non-misfiring cylinders will be less than 1/2 as great as the misfiring cylinder(s). When investigating a misfire, always start with the components associated with the cylinder(s) that has the largest number of counts stored in the Misfire History Cyl # counter.

Steps 5 through 12 check for conditions that can cause a random cylinder misfire.

Steps 13 through 22 check for conditions that can cause a non-random or single cylinder misfire.

DTC P0300 - Engine Misfire Detected Step
Action
Value(s)
Yes
No

1
Was the Powertrain On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check performed?
--
yes - Go to Step 2
no - Go to the Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check

2
Are any of the following DTCs also set?

DTC P1200 Injector Control Circuit
DTC P1380 Misfire Detected - Rough Road Data Not Available
DTC P1406 Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Position Sensor Performance
--
yes - Go to the other DTC first
no - Go to Step 3

3
Start and idle the engine.
Review and record scan tool Freeze Frame data.
Operate the vehicle to duplicate the conditions present when the DTC was set (as defined by the Freeze Frame data).
Monitor the scan tool Misfire Current Cyl # display for each cylinder.
Is Misfire Current Cyl # display incrementing for any cylinder (indicating a misfire currently occurring)?
--
yes - Go to Step 4
no - Go to Diagnostic Aids

4
View Misfire History Cyl # on the scan tool.

Does Misfire History Cyl # display a very large value for more than one cylinder?
--
yes - Go to Step 5
no - Go to Step 13

5
Visually and physically inspect the vacuum hoses for splits, kinks, and improper connections. Refer to Emission Hose Routing Diagram .
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was problem found?
--
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Go to Step 6

6
Visually and physically inspect the PCV valve for improper installation and for damaged O-rings. Refer to Positive Crankcase Ventilation Valve .
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was problem found?
--
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Go to Step 7

7
Inspect the throttle body inlet screen for damage or for the presence of foreign objects that may partially block the air flow sample through the MAF sensor.
If a problem is found, repair as necessary. Refer to Throttle Body Assembly Replacement .
Was problem found?
--
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Go to Step 8

8
Check fuel pressure. Refer to Fuel System Pressure Test .
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was problem found?
--
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Go to Step 9

9
Check the fuel for excessive water, alcohol, or other contaminants. Refer to Alcohol/Contaminants-in-Fuel Testing Procedure .
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was a problem found?
--
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Go to Step 10

10
Visually and physically inspect the PCM injector grounds, power grounds and sensor grounds to ensure that they are clean, tight, and in their proper locations. Refer to Ground Distribution in Electrical Diagnosis.
If a problem is found, repair as necessary. Refer to Repair Procedures in Electrical Diagnosis.
Was a problem found?
--
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Go to Step 11

11
Visually and physically inspect the following areas for vacuum leaks:
Intake manifold.
Injector O-rings.
EGR adapter
EGR valve.
EGR feed pipes.
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was a problem found?
--
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Go to Step 12

12
Remove the EGR valve and visually/physically inspect the valve to ensure that the pintle is not sticking partially open. Also, inspect the EGR valve pintle and seat for carbon deposits or burrs that may interfere with the pintle closing completely.
If a problem is found, repair as necessary. Refer to Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Valve Replacement .
Was a problem found?
--
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Go to Step 13

13
Check for proper fuel injector operation. Refer to Fuel Injector Coil Test .
If a problem is found, replace faulty injector(s) as necessary.
Was a problem found?
--
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Go to Step 14

14
Visually and physically inspect the ignition wires associated with the cylinder(s) which were misfiring to ensure that they are not damaged and are connected to the proper cylinders at the coils and at the spark plugs.
If a problem is found, repair as necessary. Refer to On-Vehicle Service in Ignition System.
Was a problem found?
--
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Go to Step 15

15
Install a J 26792 spark tester at the spark plug end of the ignition wire for the cylinder that is indicated by the Misfire Current Cyl # counters or Misfire History Cyl # counters as having the most severe misfire (largest number of counts).
Jumper the spark plug end of the companion cylinder ignition wire to engine ground. The companion cylinder is the cylinder that shares the same ignition coil (i.e., 1/4; 2/5; 3/6).
Crank the engine while observing the spark tester. A crisp, blue spark should be observed.
Is adequate spark present?
--
yes - Go to Step 20
no - Go to Step 16

16
Remove and visually/physically inspect the ignition wires associated with the cylinders that were indicated as misfiring. Ensure that the wires and boots are free of carbon tracking and the insulation is not damaged.
If a problem is found, replace malfunctioning ignition wire(s) as necessary. Refer to On-Vehicle Service in Ignition System.

Important
If carbon tracking or terminal discoloration is apparent at the ignition coil end of any of the ignition wires, replace the affected ignition wire and the associated ignition coil. Refer to Ignition Control Module Replacement .


Was a problem found?
--
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Go to Step 17

17
Measure the resistance of the ignition wires associated with the cylinders that were indicated as misfiring.
Replace any ignition wire(s) that measure greater than the specified value. Refer to On-Vehicle Service in Ignition System.
Was a problem found?
30 K ohms (30,000 ohms)
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Go to Step 18

18
Remove and visually/physically inspect the ignition coil(s) associated with the cylinders that were indicated as misfiring. Ensure that the coil(s) and coil towers are free of cracks and carbon tracking.
If a problem is found, replace damaged ignition coil(s) as necessary. Refer to Ignition Control Module Replacement .
Was a problem found?
--
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Go to Step 19

19
Measure the ignition coil secondary resistance.
If resistance is not between the specified values, replace the faulty ignition coil(s) as necessary. Refer to Ignition Control Module Replacement .
Did any ignition coils require replacement?
5K-8K ohms

(5000-8000 ohms)
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Go to Step 24

20
Remove the spark plugs from the cylinders that were indicated as misfiring.
Visually inspect the spark plug electrodes for excessive fouling. Refer to On-Vehicle Service in Ignition System.
Was a problem found?
--
yes - Go to Engine Misfire Mechanical Diagnosis in Engine General Information and Mechanical Diagnosis.
no - Go to Step 21

21
Visually inspect spark plug insulators for cracks, carbon tracking, or other damage. Also, check electrodes for incorrect gap. Refer to Spark Plug Visual Diagnosis in Ignition System.
If a problem is found, replace affected spark plug(s) as necessary.
Was problem found?
--
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Go to Step 22

22
Check for an engine mechanical problem.
Base engine problem. Refer to Engine Misfire Mechanical Diagnosis in Engine General Information and Mechanical Diagnosis.
Damaged accessory drive belt or pulley.
Damaged driven accessory (generator, water pump, drive belt tensioner, etc).
Loose or broken motor mount.
If a problem is found, repair as necessary.
Was a problem found?
--
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Go to Step 23

23
Check for a transmission TCC problem. Refer to 4L60-E Automatic Transmission Diagnosis .
If a problem is found, repair the transmission as necessary. Refer to 4L60-E Automatic Transmission Unit Repair .
Was a problem found?
--
yes - Go to Step 25
no - Refer to Diagnostic Aids

24
Replace the ignition control module. Refer to Ignition Control Module Replacement .

Is the action complete?
--
yes - Go to Step 25
--

25
Review and record Freeze Frame data
Clear DTCs.
Operate the vehicle to duplicate the conditions present when the DTC was set (as defined by the Freeze Frame data).
Monitor the scan tool Misfire Current Cyl # display for each cylinder.
Is Misfire Current Cyl # display incrementing for any cylinder (indicating a misfire currently occurring)?
--
yes - Go to Step 2
no - system OK


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Document ID # 48936
1997 Pontiac Firebird

[thebigwaldo]

Holy crap, man...that is the kind of detail everyone needs (to a point). All I need to do now is go find a techII so I can perform all those checks.

It's nice having a person in your position on these boards.

Thanks alot.

-Jeremy

[nikon]

damn your gonna be a really good member hear ;) ..keep up the good work...thats pretty cool [img]smile.gif[/img]

[97 Firebird]

If you have less then 75000 miles on the car take it to the dealer and they replace them for free.