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  • !balance shaft, WICKEDSIX help!!

    I was wondering about deleting the balance shaft. WICKEDSIX said it wasnt required. All it does is act like a gyro and balance the engine so it doesnt vibrate as bad, I guess???

    I was thinking about pulling it while I have the engine all torn down.
    2k2 camaro, K&N, SLP whisper lid, Konis, AEM, HP Tuners, Angel eyes/Halos, CF SS ram air hood, 4.10s, Zexel Torsen, UMI SFCs, CrossFire, BFGs, Gatorback, Catco, Flows, and TLC! DONT feed the Trolls!

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    Re: !balance shaft, WICKEDSIX help!!

    Wouldn't it rattle like hell without this?

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    • #3
      Re: !balance shaft, WICKEDSIX help!!

      Why on earth would you want to do that?
      \'00 f-bird 3.8 M5 coupe, pewter metallic<br />Torsen LSD, Pro 5.0 shifter, Spec stage 1 clutch, Y87 muffler, aftermarket stereo<br />-more fun than the Oldsmobile it replaced...

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        Re: !balance shaft, WICKEDSIX help!!

        you would have to rebalance the motor. The crank, flexplate/flywheel, and balance shaft work together to balance the motor. removing the balance shaft means you need to rebalance the entire rotating assembly, or else it will not be trustworthy to run hard with.
        2001 Arctic White Firebird<br />More mods than I\'m allowed to list!

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        • #5
          Re: !balance shaft, WICKEDSIX help!!

          Do a search on balance shaft. It's bee discussed many times. There really is no point in deleting it unless you're doing Double roller timing and there's no point in DRT without some heavy mods to your valve train. Theoretically you can pick up about 5hp from the delete. IMO it's not worth your time for the power you'd get.
          This link is from back when I was cluless with what i wanted to do with my car. It had to do with removing the balance shaft.
          http://forum.camarov6.com/showthread.php?t=45543
          \" Eat Rice With Pushrods \"<br /><br />My Car and What I Did <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2127313/1\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2127313/1</a>

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          • #6
            Re: !balance shaft, WICKEDSIX help!!

            MANY people have remove there's on stock car and have little to no differance other then the motor reving faster.

            the shaft is about 10lb and thats 10lb rotating mass gone..... if you have the motor out of the car you have to tap an plug some back oil feed hole in order to remove it.... or you can just remove the gear and leave the shaft in there

            i haven't done mine yet but i will soon
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            1997 3800 Series II Camaro
            4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
            7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
            11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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            • #7
              Re: !balance shaft, WICKEDSIX help!!

              10lbs rotating mass = .1 reduction in 1/4 times
              so in order to do this you HAVE to remove the motor from the car?
              Can you elaborate on the back oil feed hole? thanks
              2k2 camaro, K&N, SLP whisper lid, Konis, AEM, HP Tuners, Angel eyes/Halos, CF SS ram air hood, 4.10s, Zexel Torsen, UMI SFCs, CrossFire, BFGs, Gatorback, Catco, Flows, and TLC! DONT feed the Trolls!

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              • #8
                Re: !balance shaft, WICKEDSIX help!!

                Originally posted by slow6
                10lbs rotating mass = .1 reduction in 1/4 times
                so in order to do this you HAVE to remove the motor from the car?
                Can you elaborate on the back oil feed hole? thanks
                no you don ahve to remove the motor you can just take the gear off the balance shaft so it dont spin anymore
                www.turbov6camaro.com
                1997 3800 Series II Camaro
                4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
                7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
                11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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                • #9
                  Re: !balance shaft, WICKEDSIX help!!

                  just talking here,
                  so I can remove the chain/belt, so it dont spin
                  but how do I remove the 10-12 lbs shaft? does it just slide right out?
                  do you have to do any work to get the back part out? (back of engin)
                  2k2 camaro, K&N, SLP whisper lid, Konis, AEM, HP Tuners, Angel eyes/Halos, CF SS ram air hood, 4.10s, Zexel Torsen, UMI SFCs, CrossFire, BFGs, Gatorback, Catco, Flows, and TLC! DONT feed the Trolls!

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                  • #10
                    Re: !balance shaft, WICKEDSIX help!!

                    Originally posted by slow6
                    just talking here,
                    so I can remove the chain/belt, so it dont spin
                    but how do I remove the 10-12 lbs shaft? does it just slide right out?
                    do you have to do any work to get the back part out? (back of engin)
                    if you revmove the chain you cam wont spin anymore

                    the balance shaft is driven buy a gear you remove the gear......... if you remove the shaft you have to remove the motor and plug some oil feed hole in the back of the motor...... dont ask me what hole cuase i don't know
                    stock motor


                    motor with gear removed and/or the shaft it self


                    look just above and behind the top of the timing chain see the gear that was taken off?
                    www.turbov6camaro.com
                    1997 3800 Series II Camaro
                    4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
                    7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
                    11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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