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    Oil change time is comming up for me. I use Mobil 1 5W-30. My car will have 100K at the change. I currently use the K&N Gold Series filter, PN 1001 (or 101...whichever is recommended for 3.4s)

    My question is can I use a bigger oil filter? That one seems so damn small! With synthetic, I try to go 5,000 miles at each interval. I know the oil will be fine for 5K, but the filter seems too small to really hold all the crap that it filters.

    Can I use a bigger filter to increase the capacity of crap it holds? If so, what PN will it be? Preferably K&N, since I like the anti-drainback valve feature.

    Oh yeah, with a bigger filter, would I be able to use 5 qts of oil, instead of 4.5 qts?

    Thanks for all the help! [img]smile.gif[/img]
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  • #2
    i dont know about the 3.4 but i know the 3.8 can handle a bigger filter, i have the PH52 or something like that Fram, its a longer filter
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    • #3
      3.4L and 3.8L use the same size oil filter. stock is AC Delco PF47. the bigger filter is PF52.

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      • #4
        Oh sweetness!!

        I did a search after I posted (yeah, shoulda been the other way around [img]smile.gif[/img] )

        Can I use all 5 quarts for the 3.4? I know the 3.8s can use 5 qts.

        And does anyone have any other PNs for some other oil filter brands?

        Thanks, dudes [img]smile.gif[/img]
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        • #5
          Any 3.8's notice a high level on the dip stick after using a PF52 and 5 qts of oil?

          I just changed mine last weekend and it seems higher than a standard 4.5 qt oil change. It lies about 1/4 inch above full mark.

          (However this may be the way my car is sitting in the driveway)
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          • #6
            On flat level ground with 5qts oil and a PF52 my 3.8 is on the nose perfecto.
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            • #7
              Oil level? WTF is that? I have this spiral dipstick ...
              -Rob
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              • #8
                <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Wicked 3800 V6:
                Oil level? WTF is that? I have this spiral dipstick ...
                -Rob
                <hr></blockquote>

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                • #9
                  Spiral Dipstick, sounds like a camaro. =) A firebird wouldnt have one of thoughs.
                  97 Special Edition Bird , Short bus stlye special

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                  • #10
                    I use the AC Delco PF-52 (has the anti-drainback feature and costs less than K&N) and use 4.75 quarts per oil change. This puts the oil level near 3/4 of the full range. A full 5 quarts would probably be at the top or slightly higher.
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                    • #11
                      <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by CamaroBill:
                      A full 5 quarts would probably be at the top or slightly higher.<hr></blockquote>Is there a problem with having too much oil?
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                      • #12
                        just a 1/4" over, no...but way too much is bad...
                        <b>Black</b> 1998 Pontiac <i>Firebird</i> A-4 swap<br />271.4rwhp/259.4rwtq NA<br />13.30@102.44 <br /><a href=\"http://www.freewebs.com/wickedsix98\" target=\"_blank\">www.freewebs.com/wickedsix98</a>

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                        • #13
                          OK, I did some searching...

                          The PF52 is used by the 4.3 V6 in S-10s and Blazers. So I plugged that info into the K&N site, and the PN for K&N Gold Filters is HP-2001.

                          Found a pic of the AC Delco PF52...it certainly is bigger! :eek:

                          I'll see how much more the K&N is in my area; if it's a lot more, I'll get the AC Delco.

                          EDIT: pic link didn't work so I took it down.

                          [ March 03, 2003: Message edited by: TheV6Bird ]</p>
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                          • #14
                            It's also used by the 96 corvette's and 95-96 SS impala (same engine) I just bought the puralator pureone filter for my car but forgot what # it was.
                            96 Camaro RS A4 T-tops<br />Loudmouth <br />and other audio mods

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                            • #15
                              I like my fram x2 it lasts for 7,000 miles... to bad the car leaks all the oil first
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