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  • Is there a belt that goes around the A/C pullys??

    Want to find a surpintine belt that avoids the a/c pullys to gaina lil HP, is there one?
    Past Ride
    1995 Firebird A4 3.8 Turbocharged -- 12.50 at 108
    (If you dont know me, you haven't had a V6 long enough)

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    2006 Mitsubishi Evolution GSR

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  • #2
    i just bought a new serpentine belt, and the guy asked me if i had air condition or not, so just say u dont and maybe it will fit, but it might mess up the patern of the belt
    Camaro 95 3.4L M5<br />Flowmaster 80srs<br />Catco High Flo Cat<br />Slp CAI<br />Prime wheels

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    • #3
      yea..like when the A/C pulley gets in the way.

      if you wanna get rid of your A/C -- GM MAKES a A/C-delete pulley, you take out your A/C and you put the pulley in its place.

      much easier than trying to just get around it IMO.

      -R

      hybrid - \'\'hI-br&d - The offspring of a cross between species.
      Co-Founder West Coast F-Bodies
      West Coast F-Bodies Car Club - WCFB Message Board

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      • #4
        Or if you're just running at the track just take off the belt. You'll be good for awhile.
        2002 Camaro SS 6 Spd<br />Sebring Silver Metallic<br />Still breaking it in<p>Traded in - 2002 V6 5 Spd Camaro.<p>\"I\'ll never trust squirrels again.\"

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        • #5
          <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Cale:
          Or if you're just running at the track just take off the belt. You'll be good for awhile.<hr></blockquote>

          I hope this is a joke.

          Josh-
          \'94 Camaro A4<br />Mods: K&N Conical, Dynomax Muffler, Dynomax 2.5\" I-Pipe, Jetchip Stage II, 180 Stat, RKSport Underdrive Pullies, Fan Relay Switch, Rapidfire Plugs, Bosch O2s, Goodyear GA, Aluminum Driveshaft, Alpine CD... <p>And also: Ported and Polished Plenum, Ported and Polished Intake Manifold, Ported and Polished Heads, 5 angle valve job, Raised Compreshion, Tranny Cooler, 19lb injectors, no new times yet.<p>\'95 Dodge Stealth M5<br />stock as a rock...

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          • #6
            No, it's not a joke.

            If you can deal with manual steering and are confident that you have a good battery - you'd probably be good quite awhile. I'm not confident enough to say how long, but I know of plenty who have done it.

            So, what were you implying? Your battery would drain dead? Uhh.. no. Just turn off electronics and you're good.

            [ February 22, 2002: Message edited by: Cale ]</p>
            2002 Camaro SS 6 Spd<br />Sebring Silver Metallic<br />Still breaking it in<p>Traded in - 2002 V6 5 Spd Camaro.<p>\"I\'ll never trust squirrels again.\"

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            • #7
              I wouldn't worry about the battery but what about the waterpump.. that thing has to turn..
              -Brad
              98 Firebird - gone from mod mode to keep it running and useable mode.
              2000 V-Star Custom 1100
              If all else fails use a bigger hammer!
              :rock:

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              • #8
                Hmm.. I almost thought there were 2 separate belts?
                (I've seen other F-Bods do this, V8s)

                Perhaps there is another belt out there that can be bought to replace the one

                [ February 22, 2002: Message edited by: Cale ]</p>
                2002 Camaro SS 6 Spd<br />Sebring Silver Metallic<br />Still breaking it in<p>Traded in - 2002 V6 5 Spd Camaro.<p>\"I\'ll never trust squirrels again.\"

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                • #9
                  For the 3.8 I found a belt that bypass the A/C pulley and the one idler pulley. And you dont need a delete pulley. And Cale w/ out running the belt how are you turning the crank pulley? Not to offend you but why do something like that, I tried every way to get the belt to go around just the crank and altinator but wouldnt work. At my web site I took a pic of the belt and notice that it runs from the crank to the water pump to the tension pulley to the altinator down to the power steering.
                  http://www.geocities.com/twocents29/brandon.html

                  [ February 22, 2002: Message edited by: W68Firebird97 ]</p>
                  2000 Black T/A M6 343rwhp 349rwtq<br />11.94 @ 118 60\'1.79 Stock Internal<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/demonicbird00\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/demonicbird00</a> <br />AIM: W68Firebird97<br />R.I.P... Christine 12/25/02 <br />1997 Firebird W68 Black<br />14.887 @ 90.08

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                  • #10
                    Well... I was implying a separate belt that would rid of use of the A/C, like you just described.

                    You don't even need to run the alternator as long as the battery is good (OF COURSE ONLY FOR 1/4 MILE RUNS for a FINITE amount of time)

                    [ February 22, 2002: Message edited by: Cale ]</p>
                    2002 Camaro SS 6 Spd<br />Sebring Silver Metallic<br />Still breaking it in<p>Traded in - 2002 V6 5 Spd Camaro.<p>\"I\'ll never trust squirrels again.\"

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                    • #11
                      Oh ok. yeah I have a belt that totaly bypasses the A/C pulley and the little idler pulley in between the A/C pulley and the altinator. Id be leery of running the 1/4 mile w/out the alt. just because its safer.
                      2000 Black T/A M6 343rwhp 349rwtq<br />11.94 @ 118 60\'1.79 Stock Internal<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/demonicbird00\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/demonicbird00</a> <br />AIM: W68Firebird97<br />R.I.P... Christine 12/25/02 <br />1997 Firebird W68 Black<br />14.887 @ 90.08

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                      • #12
                        What belt and # is it?

                        Thanks
                        2002 Camaro SS 6 Spd<br />Sebring Silver Metallic<br />Still breaking it in<p>Traded in - 2002 V6 5 Spd Camaro.<p>\"I\'ll never trust squirrels again.\"

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                        • #13
                          Its 61.5". And I got it from ABC Discount Parts.
                          The name is Fresh Start it is V-ribbed and the part # is 615K6.
                          Its been working great for me and have had it in since eary Jan.
                          Good luck
                          Brandon

                          Did you see the pic that I took of the engine bay of my car, it gives a general idea? [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
                          2000 Black T/A M6 343rwhp 349rwtq<br />11.94 @ 118 60\'1.79 Stock Internal<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/demonicbird00\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/demonicbird00</a> <br />AIM: W68Firebird97<br />R.I.P... Christine 12/25/02 <br />1997 Firebird W68 Black<br />14.887 @ 90.08

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                          • #14
                            if i went to like Auto Zone or some place and asked for a serpintine belt for a 3.8 Firebird with no A/C and if they had it would it work? W68Firebird, Can you order the belt you have online?
                            Past Ride
                            1995 Firebird A4 3.8 Turbocharged -- 12.50 at 108
                            (If you dont know me, you haven't had a V6 long enough)

                            Current Ride
                            2006 Mitsubishi Evolution GSR

                            www.myspace.com/shane1015

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                            • #15
                              W68Firebird97, do you still use the tensioner pulley?

                              I run a 610K6 belt and bypass the tensioner also. I MUSCLE the belt over the pulleys. I aslo removed my tensioner pulley so it doesn't get in the way.

                              615K6 was too loose for me.

                              - Keith
                              Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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