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  • Is it just my 3.4L ??? or yours to?

    i have posted this before I think but I only get(MABE) like 190 miles a tank. I have a 1993 camaro A4 it has 87,000 miles on it. Last owner was a old women so i no it has not been drivin hard. It seems my car might be slowing down and has no power, besides having 160hp. But what should I do about my gas problem? HOW many miles a tank do you guys and girls get with your 3.4L? Is my car broke?
    -FLOWMASTER 80 series exhaust dual out,K&N air filter.<br />-Bright Rally Red, 1993 Camaro V6 automatic. No BIG mods yet! But who needs alot of mods when you have 160 hp? Kumho ECSTA Supra 712 tires 245/50-16\'s \"Great tires\" <br /><a href=\"http://webpages.charter.net/camarov6/Car%20Pics/P13.JPG\" target=\"_blank\">http://webpages.charter.net/camarov6/Car%20Pics/P13.JPG</a><br /><a href=\"http://webpages.charter.net/camarov6/Car%20Pics/P23.JPG\" target=\"_blank\">http://webpages.charter.net/camarov6/Car%20Pics/P23.JPG</a>

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    How many gallons is your tank? I have a '95 3.4L and it has a 15.5 gallon tank. If this is your tank size or close; and you're sure its not just a problem with the gage, then you have a problem. B/C Under normal driving conditions (for a 22 yr. college student- (tend to have a heavy foot which isn't good on gas milege) i get around 300 miles per tank if i were to really press it. I usually fill up by 250 though. On long highway trips i can get about 26 mpg or almost 400 miles when i drove to indy and back recently.
    I'll leave possible sources of the problem to more knowledgable engine members of this board.

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    1995 3.4L Camaro (A4)
    Mods: K&N FIPK air filter, cat-back exhaust soon
    2001 Camaro Z28 (A4) Sunset Orange Metallic w/ T-tops, Monsoon Stereo, factory GFX, BMR STB from the v6, 18K miles<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/jhkcam22\" target=\"_blank\">2001 Camaro Z28</a><br /><br />Dads car: 2002 35th aniv. Bright red Z28, fully loaded<br /><br />R.I.P.<br />1995 3.4L Camaro (A4) Bright Red<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/jhkcam\" target=\"_blank\">1995 3.4 Camaro</a>

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    • #3
      when was the last time you gave your car a Full Tune Up?

      edit: just substitute 2.8/3.1 with 3.4, and ignore that info which doesn't actually pertain to 93-95 cars.

      [ October 08, 2002: Message edited by: 3.4 slow to go ]</p>
      1978 Formula 461 in progress of being built :rock:
      2013 Ram 1500 Big Horn

      former owner of 85 bird w/ 2.8 - 3.4 - 3800 II - 5.0
      94 comero 3.4

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      • #4
        Does my mileage sound bad to you guys? I have a light lead foot like 25% of the time but other wise I never take it past 3 rpm. So do you think I have a big problem. ONE MORE THING does you passenger seat viberates around when your at like a stop like?Friends always tell me that when they ride with me. It might do it because mabe of the cat is right below the seat.
        -FLOWMASTER 80 series exhaust dual out,K&N air filter.<br />-Bright Rally Red, 1993 Camaro V6 automatic. No BIG mods yet! But who needs alot of mods when you have 160 hp? Kumho ECSTA Supra 712 tires 245/50-16\'s \"Great tires\" <br /><a href=\"http://webpages.charter.net/camarov6/Car%20Pics/P13.JPG\" target=\"_blank\">http://webpages.charter.net/camarov6/Car%20Pics/P13.JPG</a><br /><a href=\"http://webpages.charter.net/camarov6/Car%20Pics/P23.JPG\" target=\"_blank\">http://webpages.charter.net/camarov6/Car%20Pics/P23.JPG</a>

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        • #5
          No vibrating passenger seat complaints... but yeah the mileage just isn't quite right- especially if you don't tend to "push it". Just doing the math alone, at 190 miles a tank w/ ~15 gallon tank is like only 12 miles a gallon. Most SUV's can surpass that. Get it checked out.
          2001 Camaro Z28 (A4) Sunset Orange Metallic w/ T-tops, Monsoon Stereo, factory GFX, BMR STB from the v6, 18K miles<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/jhkcam22\" target=\"_blank\">2001 Camaro Z28</a><br /><br />Dads car: 2002 35th aniv. Bright red Z28, fully loaded<br /><br />R.I.P.<br />1995 3.4L Camaro (A4) Bright Red<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/jhkcam\" target=\"_blank\">1995 3.4 Camaro</a>

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          • #6
            I usually get right around 300miles to a tank. Based on what I fill it up with next time, I get about 20mpg. This is basically city driving, with a mix of 35/40/45 mph roads. I don't see much change whether heavy foot or feathering the gas.

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            • #7
              bad gas mileage + older motor = bad O2 sensors.At least that's the way it works out 99% of the time.Try replacing them (2 of them) and see if it helps.Good luck.
              Kevin
              1998 Black Z28<br />1995 Black 3.4 (@#$$%* ex took it!)<br /><a href=\"http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/nikkev1/lst?.dir=/New+Camaro&.view=t\" target=\"_blank\">Pics</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.scfyb.com/phpBB2/\" target=\"_blank\">Carolina Board</a>

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              • #8
                I bet something is causing your car to run rich. I agree with earlier posts that the oxygen(O2) sensor could be bad.

                In the past I had a 2.8 Camaro and the thermostat would open way too much causing the engine to run cool. When I corrected the problem, the mileage improved by a few MPG.

                My 95 M5 3.4 has 124,000 miles, and gets 20 MPG on my 20 minute, 15 mile drive to work. I fill up at about 280 miles per tank. I lean on the pedal some - it probably sees 5000 RPMS at least once a day.
                1995 Camaro M5 3.4 Quasar Blue Metallic with T-tops.<br />K&N, Jet Stage II chip, Z28 exhaust, 1LE aluminum ds. Need more power!<br />Next: Auburn posi<br />1976 Pontiac Trans Am. Street driven. Has low compression 350 Chevy runs 12.81 @ 104, 1.73 60\'

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                • #9
                  <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by nikkev:
                  bad gas mileage + older motor = bad O2 sensors.At least that's the way it works out 99% of the time.Try replacing them (2 of them) and see if it helps.Good luck.
                  Kevin
                  <hr></blockquote>

                  Yep, a while back my gas mileage got really crappy. Talking 11mpg crappy. I swapped my O2 sensors and everything went back to normal.

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                  • #10
                    How much money is the O2 sensors ? how many do I need to get? THANKS KEVIN
                    -FLOWMASTER 80 series exhaust dual out,K&N air filter.<br />-Bright Rally Red, 1993 Camaro V6 automatic. No BIG mods yet! But who needs alot of mods when you have 160 hp? Kumho ECSTA Supra 712 tires 245/50-16\'s \"Great tires\" <br /><a href=\"http://webpages.charter.net/camarov6/Car%20Pics/P13.JPG\" target=\"_blank\">http://webpages.charter.net/camarov6/Car%20Pics/P13.JPG</a><br /><a href=\"http://webpages.charter.net/camarov6/Car%20Pics/P23.JPG\" target=\"_blank\">http://webpages.charter.net/camarov6/Car%20Pics/P23.JPG</a>

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                    • #11
                      Any local parts store can get them for you if they don't have them in stock. Turns out that ours are some of the more "inexpensive" of the oxygen sensors. My mechanic said that most cost over $50, and that's his cost. Luckily for our cars, you should be able to find some for around $25 or so. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
                      95 Camaro 3.4L A4<br />Bosch plugs/MSD wires, K&N FIPK , Magnaflow catback, hi-flo cat, B&M Shift+, Dee\'s spacer<br />Kenwood KDX-859, eXcelon Amps, Infinity Kappa 3-way doors and Perfect10 sub<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/harbins95\" target=\"_blank\">Behold, the raw fury that is known as the 3.4!!!</a>

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                      • #12
                        I got the same problem, though I run a 98 3.8 and I get around 200-240 average of like 220 before I fill up. Should I try to take it to a mechanic or is this normal for a leadfoot.
                        1998 Firebird 3.8, A4<br />Mods: Alum Ds, Yank TC 2800 stall, Rksport lid, FTRA, SLP air temp sensor, K&N, Flowmaster catback 2.5\" w/cutout, 3:42 gears w/LSD<br />Best E/T: 15.6 @ 86 mph (w/o gears / lsd or verter)<br />Best 60: 2.234<br /><a href=\"http://www.teamfoxfire.iwarp.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.teamfoxfire.iwarp.com</a> -- club site<p>To come?: l67 piston package hardened, turbo? spray? low 12\'s? well see

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                        • #13
                          Everyone should remember a good tune up will go a long ways!!! This is the season for it too. Just before the snow/cold weather. If you have the really bad mileage like some are complaining about, definately look into the O2 sensors. I know that I get get 3.4L models for 24.99 here. And for 50 bucks, that's 2 tank fulls now a days. The payoff is better to get the O2's.

                          I can't stress enough how a tune up will help over all with the cars!!!

                          As for the vibrations.. I also get that. BADLY!! I'm still hunting it down. Think it has to do with a bad DS balancing job. But that is what winter is for. OH.. I only get the vibes while moving at HIGH speeds. Normal cruising is fine.

                          Steve
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                          • #14
                            the O2 sensors on the 3.4 are the same as the 2.3/3.1. you(we) just have twice as many. here, they're around $18 a pop. I'm going to experiment on mine: the stock location of the O2 sensor on the 85 is right before the cat. I'm just going to hook onto the pass side one & see if any codes brought up.
                            1978 Formula 461 in progress of being built :rock:
                            2013 Ram 1500 Big Horn

                            former owner of 85 bird w/ 2.8 - 3.4 - 3800 II - 5.0
                            94 comero 3.4

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