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  • #16
    i had a leaking rear main and a buddy of mine inspected my car before i bought it and told me he would replace it for $85 but i think the dealership fixed it cause i told them and i never see any oil in the garage.
    2000 3.8 A4 Pewter Camaro

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    • #17
      Originally posted by camaroincal:
      </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Distephano:
      </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by camaroincal:
      haha. I know but it's exactly what my water pump was doing.
      You cracked a Head because your water pump was leaking???

      Do you not watch your temp gauge?

      A cracked head is NOT a direct result of a dripping water pump. If the water pump was in back enough shape that water was not moving and the car's temp went WAY to high, you could have cracked a head / blown a head gasket. You should have had an idiot light come on long before something like that happened though.
      </font>[/QUOTE]Woah boy calm down now lol. [img]tongue.gif[/img] All the info is here so please read it. Thanks. :rolleyes:

      http://www.camarov6.com/cgi-bin/ulti...;f=16;t=002417
      </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry buddy. I'm not going to go look for a thread about the same topic that you posted, just to see what your story was.

      Either way, what you said made it sound like "My water pump was leaking and it cracked my heads!"

      In reality, your situtaion is not really similar at all.

      The reason your head gasket blew out is, like I said, you didn't pay attention to the temp guage. Your water pump was not moving coolant, because it was leaking, so your temp went way up, and you blew the head gasket. Had you paid attention to the temp and pulled over when it got that high, you would have been fine.
      1997 Cayenne Red Metallic Camaro<br />3.8 V6 M5<br />SLP Cold Air Intake<br />Ceramic Coated Pacesetter Headers <br />Flowmaster American Thunder Catback<br />Full 3.42 & Disc Break Rear End Swap

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      • #18
        So anyway, as I was driving to the tire place, the temp gauge starting going up abnormally..up to about 230 when I finally got there and turned the car off. I made sure to tell the guys there not to drive the car any more than needed becasue of the issues it was having. On the way back from the tire place as I was approaching the mechanic, the temp gauge started soaring up to the 240 range so as I was cruisin about 40 mph and only 1/10 of a mile from the shop, I turned the car off and just coasted in. Sorry for leaving that out of the main topic.
        Would have been nice to know that. Sorry about what I said, this information helps change my opinion. However, a leaky water pump is... a leaky water pump. Nip it in the bud before you have to pay out the nose.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Dan Vincent:
          </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />So anyway, as I was driving to the tire place, the temp gauge starting going up abnormally..up to about 230 when I finally got there and turned the car off. I made sure to tell the guys there not to drive the car any more than needed becasue of the issues it was having. On the way back from the tire place as I was approaching the mechanic, the temp gauge started soaring up to the 240 range so as I was cruisin about 40 mph and only 1/10 of a mile from the shop, I turned the car off and just coasted in. Sorry for leaving that out of the main topic.
          Would have been nice to know that. Sorry about what I said, this information helps change my opinion. However, a leaky water pump is... a leaky water pump. Nip it in the bud before you have to pay out the nose. </font>[/QUOTE]Ya I don't know why I forgot to mention this. Sorry bout that. I also did nip it in the bud as a week earlier I started noting a coolant smell when I turned on the AC. Sure enough, I looked under the car and there were a couple drops there...nothing major. So week after that when I was changing my oil it started to leak many drops, so that's when I decided to take it to the mechanic and get a new water pump.

          [ May 24, 2004, 10:35 PM: Message edited by: camaroincal ]

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Distephano:
            </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by camaroincal:
            </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Distephano:
            </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by camaroincal:
            haha. I know but it's exactly what my water pump was doing.
            You cracked a Head because your water pump was leaking???

            Do you not watch your temp gauge?

            A cracked head is NOT a direct result of a dripping water pump. If the water pump was in back enough shape that water was not moving and the car's temp went WAY to high, you could have cracked a head / blown a head gasket. You should have had an idiot light come on long before something like that happened though.
            </font>[/QUOTE]Woah boy calm down now lol. [img]tongue.gif[/img] All the info is here so please read it. Thanks. :rolleyes:

            http://www.camarov6.com/cgi-bin/ulti...;f=16;t=002417
            </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry buddy. I'm not going to go look for a thread about the same topic that you posted, just to see what your story was.

            Either way, what you said made it sound like "My water pump was leaking and it cracked my heads!"

            In reality, your situtaion is not really similar at all.

            The reason your head gasket blew out is, like I said, you didn't pay attention to the temp guage. Your water pump was not moving coolant, because it was leaking, so your temp went way up, and you blew the head gasket. Had you paid attention to the temp and pulled over when it got that high, you would have been fine.
            </font>[/QUOTE]Well maybe I should have been more thorough in my reply. But my main point was that people should know that a leaky waterpump can be a sign of other things wrong with the engine, as was in my case.

            And you are wrong about thinking that I'm some ****ing idiot. I watch my temperature gauge all the time, and since I bought the car 3 years ago with 73,xxx I have kept it well maintained. But you would have known this if you would had taken the time to read the link I gave you. And please show me where I said that a cracked head is a direct cause of a blown head gasket... :rolleyes: I said that it turned out to be a cracked head after the mechanic ran some tests.

            [ May 24, 2004, 10:39 PM: Message edited by: camaroincal ]

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            • #21
              *sigh* :rolleyes:

              Originally posted by camaroincal:
              I watch my temperature gauge all the time.

              on the way back from the tire place as I was approaching the mechanic, the temp gauge started soaring up to the 240 range so as I was cruisin about 40 mph and only 1/10 of a mile from the shop
              You're right. You watched the gauge peg...

              Originally posted by camaroincal:
              And please show me where I said that a cracked head is a direct cause of a blown head gasket...

              My water pump was leaking as your's was. Took it to a mechanic to a get a new one. Turns out after he installed the new water pump he ran some tests and determined I had a cracked head or bad head gasket.
              You are causing a lot of fuss over nothing. You make it sound like "Look out, my head is cracked, and right before that happened, my water pumped leaked just like yours." Making it sound like cuz his water pump is leaked his heads will crack too.

              Originally posted by camaroincal:
              If you would take the time to read the link I gave you you would understand what is going on a little better instead od talking out of your @$$.
              I did read your thread. I just said that its not my job to go back and find your thread to make sure you have told us all the info. You were just as confusing in your thread. In your first post you say
              This seems awefully low to be blowing head gaskets. I bought the car in early 2001 with 73k on it and I've kept it up pretty well. Admitally I do drive a little hard, but I don't beat on it too bad. I always warm it up properly etc.
              You totaly ignore the fact that you let your temp get way high when you took it to have your water pump changed. Which is my main point.

              I KNOW you are not saying that when your water pump leaks, it cracks your head(s). All I'm saying is, that you seem to point fingers at your water pump right away when you find out your head is cracked. While it is true that because the water pump didn't move enough coolant to keep the engine cool, you should not have kept driving it when you saw the temp go so high, which is what will crack your heads / blow your head gaskets.

              I'm not trying to start a flame war here, I'm just trying to make what I was saying clear and you are taking it as a person attack on you.
              1997 Cayenne Red Metallic Camaro<br />3.8 V6 M5<br />SLP Cold Air Intake<br />Ceramic Coated Pacesetter Headers <br />Flowmaster American Thunder Catback<br />Full 3.42 & Disc Break Rear End Swap

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              • #22
                jes its like ITS a freaking water pump

                its like a rapper it flows or it don't
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                • #23
                  No i didnt let the temperature "peg" i belive the redline is 250+ .I turned the car off as it got to 240. The temperature increased from like 180-240 in a matter of minutes.... This was with the new water pump installed as well.

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                  • #24
                    no, but seriously, my car is fine now. it was the pump leaking.


                    i havent been on here in a few days, i just find it funny that my leaky water pump got turned into a "crap on camaroincal" fest.

                    just let him go. its his car, he can do what he wants.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Ian:
                      no, but seriously, my car is fine now. it was the pump leaking.


                      i havent been on here in a few days, i just find it funny that my leaky water pump got turned into a "crap on camaroincal" fest.

                      just let him go. its his car, he can do what he wants.
                      Ya man I know. It's sucks to be me... [img]graemlins/twak.gif[/img]

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                      • #26
                        The water pump is design to leak when it fails. That's how you know its gone bad. There's a small weep hole on the underside of the pump where the water drips out.

                        [ May 26, 2004, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: Dojo2000 ]
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Dojo2000:
                          The water pump is design to leak when it fails. That's how you know its gone bad. There's a small weep hole on the underside of the pump where the water drips out.
                          Wow, and this i did not know! no kidding! i saw the old pump had a hole in the bottom, and it looked liek thats where the stuff came from, but i didnt know. now i do! thanks.

                          what entails a water pump 'going bad'? it still pumped fine......just the seals start to go or what?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Ian:
                            Wow, and this i did not know! no kidding! i saw the old pump had a hole in the bottom, and it looked liek thats where the stuff came from, but i didnt know. now i do! thanks.

                            what entails a water pump 'going bad'? it still pumped fine......just the seals start to go or what?
                            AdvanceAutoParts.com:
                            In general, one of two things usually causes water-pump failure. The first is when the pump's shaft's bearings wear out. Squealing and whining usually foreshadow the bearings' ultimate demise. The other scenario is seal failure. This causes coolant to leak from the pump's "weep" hole. Coolant drips that can't be traced to the radiator hoses, overflow tanks or the thermostat housing often originate at the water pump's gaskets.
                            ~Derrick <a href=\"http://www.appstate.edu/~do54457/\" target=\"_blank\"><i>My Webpage</i></a><br /><b>\'96 3.8L V6 M5 Firebird Y87</b> | <b>162.8 RWHP</b> / <b>196.7 RWTQ</b> <br /><b>•</b> SLP CAI <b>•</b> <a href=\"http://tech.firebirdv6.com/y87.html\" target=\"_blank\"><b>Y87</b> Package</a> - 3.23s <b>•</b> 180º thermo w/ fan switch <b>•</b> TB spacer from DEE<br />1991 Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4x4

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Ian:
                              </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dojo2000:
                              The water pump is design to leak when it fails. That's how you know its gone bad. There's a small weep hole on the underside of the pump where the water drips out.
                              Wow, and this i did not know! no kidding! i saw the old pump had a hole in the bottom, and it looked liek thats where the stuff came from, but i didnt know. now i do! thanks.
                              </font>[/QUOTE]Damn, man-my fault I thought that was general knowledge. Guess we should never take anything for granted huh?
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Christian:
                                </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ian:
                                </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dojo2000:
                                The water pump is design to leak when it fails. That's how you know its gone bad. There's a small weep hole on the underside of the pump where the water drips out.
                                Wow, and this i did not know! no kidding! i saw the old pump had a hole in the bottom, and it looked liek thats where the stuff came from, but i didnt know. now i do! thanks.
                                </font>[/QUOTE]Damn, man-my fault I thought that was general knowledge. Guess we should never take anything for granted huh?
                                </font>[/QUOTE]haha, yea. i guess im the only person on earth who can rebuild an engine but not figure out where the f'in coolant is comin from lol.

                                i was able to trace it to seal failure, but had no idea there was a weep hole. know i know.... [img]smile.gif[/img]

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