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  • #16
    Re: Thermostat - 160 or 180 ???

    Originally posted by slow6
    On a N/A engine I would prefer my engine being 195 rather than
    < 160! You're probably screwing your gas mileage
    Again, not a fan of drilled
    That's exactly right. As my temp has become lower and lower over the past few months, so has my gas mileage. I am thinking that getting it back up to normal operating temp might improve the MPG.

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    • #17
      Re: Thermostat - 160 or 180 ???

      Originally posted by BLLDOGG
      apply it dry. do not use sealant ever unless you remove sealant that was applied from the factory.
      Thank you, I appreciate it.

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      • #18
        Re: Thermostat - 160 or 180 ???

        Keeping your car cool, (160) is one thing, but the way I see it, the engine should be run at a higher temp.. 160 is so cold.

        Isnt that bad for the engine?
        *Matt


        Old people shouldnt use the internet.

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        • #19
          Re: Thermostat - 160 or 180 ???

          yes, I'd say so
          2k2 camaro, K&N, SLP whisper lid, Konis, AEM, HP Tuners, Angel eyes/Halos, CF SS ram air hood, 4.10s, Zexel Torsen, UMI SFCs, CrossFire, BFGs, Gatorback, Catco, Flows, and TLC! DONT feed the Trolls!

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          • #20
            Re: Thermostat - 160 or 180 ???

            its bad for power,milage, and the motor as a whole. lowest i'd go is 180.
            1998 bright red camaro ,M5 ,Y87 ,stock<br /><br />Originally posted by Rune:<br />If it smells like a turd and looks like a turd, chances are its probably not a candy bar.

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            • #21
              Re: Thermostat - 160 or 180 ???

              Originally posted by loser
              its bad for power,milage, and the motor as a whole. lowest i'd go is 180.
              Your right except for power. Actually the colder the engine the more power it produces. A 3.8 engine at 10* probibly has as much as 10 more HP/torque than it does at 180* it just wears the piss out of the engine running it cold. All the guys at the drag strip that know how to squeeze every extra bit of HP out of an engine will push their car through the staging lane so that their engine will be as cold as possible when they race.

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              • #22
                Re: Thermostat - 160 or 180 ???

                Originally posted by nascar24jd
                1993 3.4L Firebird

                I am in need of a new thermostat. The one in the engine now is stuck open and the coolant temp will barely get above 100. I do not want the stock 195 degree stat, I would rather it run a little cooler. I have read many threads on this but I am wondering what you all suggest. Does the ECM/PCM operate normally at 160 or is that too cool? I would like opinions / suggestions whether I should install the 160 or the 180.

                Also, does it use a rubber seal, or a paper gasket?
                You could run your car with no stat at all and it would still get to 190*. If your guage is not going above 100* then you probibly have a bad water temp sensor. Im not saying you shouldnt change your stat if you want to go with a cooler one, im just saying if your temp guage doesnt go past 100 its bad or a bad sensor. Oh and Autozone has 180* stats in stock.

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                • #23
                  Re: Thermostat - 160 or 180 ???

                  Originally posted by slow6
                  I dont think so :bs: :bs:
                  LOL what do you know...

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                  • #24
                    Re: Thermostat - 160 or 180 ???

                    I will call :bs: on that
                    It will give you 1* of advance which have to be corrected in tune back to 0 if you are on 160

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                    • #25
                      Re: Thermostat - 160 or 180 ???

                      Just go with the 180 thermo. The 160's are too low.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Thermostat - 160 or 180 ???

                        Originally posted by Ace
                        You could run your car with no stat at all and it would still get to 190*. If your guage is not going above 100* then you probibly have a bad water temp sensor. Im not saying you shouldnt change your stat if you want to go with a cooler one, im just saying if your temp guage doesnt go past 100 its bad or a bad sensor. Oh and Autozone has 180* stats in stock.
                        I should have been more clear on that. It will get up to full temp at idle, not driving. Once I start to drive it and cool air passes through the radiator the temp drops to about 120-140. The temp gauge is working properly. I need the new thermostat so that the car will stay at proper operating temp.

                        I went to Autozone today and bought a 180 degree thermostat and a new rubber seal. I will install it in a few day when I get a chance. It is the "Fail Safe" type, when it goes bad it will get stuck fully open rather the getting stuck closed.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Thermostat - 160 or 180 ???

                          i have a 160* t-stat. in the winter you will stay pretty darn cold, but in the summer/spring/fall you will heat up just fine. in the summer with my 160* t-stat, new radiator, and fans cutting on earlier, i can still reach 215* when im stopped or have been running hard. 180 or 160 doesnt matter unless you get your pcm tuned to have the fans cut on earlier anyhow.
                          Black 1996 3.8 Firebird T5, SLP CAI, Pacesetter Ceramic Headers,160* t-stat, PCMforLess Tune, Flowmaster American Thunder catback, Car Sounds Cat, custom s-pipe, MSD coils and wires, NGK plugs, 3.42 posi rear, B&M Ripper, 245/50 BFG-G-force's

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                          • #28
                            Re: Thermostat - 160 or 180 ???

                            Originally posted by Harrison
                            i have a 160* t-stat. in the winter you will stay pretty darn cold, but in the summer/spring/fall you will heat up just fine. in the summer with my 160* t-stat, new radiator, and fans cutting on earlier, i can still reach 215* when im stopped or have been running hard. 180 or 160 doesnt matter unless you get your pcm tuned to have the fans cut on earlier anyhow.
                            See, I know my car runs cool, but I live in Miami. Right now it is pretty cold at night, but other then that it is always very hot. During hot days with the fan running (A/C on) the temp hovers around 140-160. Now that the weather is cooler it hovers around 100-120. Now I am second guessing whether or not I should even change it. I don't want the car to run too hot. With the 180 thermostat and the fan on shouldn't the temp stay right near 180???

                            I only have a few more weeks and it will be very hot once again down here.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Thermostat - 160 or 180 ???

                              Also, where can I buy the part that causes the fan to kick on at a lower temp? I have seen it in the past but I cannot remember where. Thanks.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Thermostat - 160 or 180 ???

                                If you don't have cats on your car, then then it's more or less a personal choice. I would recommend a drilled 180

                                If you DO have cats, the I would NOT get the 160. Cats don't seem to like the colder thermos.
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