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can someone explain these to me and what is there that i can do?
i have a 96 3.8L
i have a 96 3.8L
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they send more electricity, and give you control over ignition timing and advances. -
Yes, it will give you some control over timing. It will allow you to retard the timing, but not advance it. It generates multiple sparks under 3000 rpm giving your car a better chance at combustion of the air/fuel mix. Over 3000 rpm, it generates one big powerful spark. This type of ignition system would be a real benefit when generating power in the upper rpms. I for one, notice a performance increase from 1500 rpm on, with a noticeable "jolt" at 3000rpm.
It is commonly believed on this board that the MSD DIS-4 offers no benefit on a naturally aspirated 3.8 Series II engine. This may be true on a basically stock car. I personally believe that once you start performance mods (i.e. air intake work,porting and polishing, performance chips that supply more fuel, etc.) the stock ignition will perform at a nominal level at best.
I could go on and on about this mod and others, but it really depends on what you expect from basic "bolt-on" modifications. This is not a mod that's gonna snap your neck back like nitrous or a torque converter, but it helps if your goal is all-around performance. Shouldn't be done as a start-up mod.
[ December 24, 2002: Message edited by: AMinor65 ]</p><b>1998 Firebird 3800 Series II, A4</b><br />Direct-Flo Lid,K&N Filter,DEE TB Spacer,TPS-TEC,ZZP Mini-AFC,Raised and Cutout Airbox 7mm,BMR STB & Boxed LCAs,KYB AGX Shocks,Drilled/Slotted Rotors,180* Thermo,2.5\" Catco Cat,Dynomax 2.75\" custom catback,Kumho Ecstas/245,Jet Stage 2,3.42,Edge Racing 2870 Stall,B&M Tranny Cooler,B&M Deep Tranny Pan,LSD,AAM Girdle,1LE DS,NX Wet Kit,MSD DIS-4,MSD Blaster Coil Packs,Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires,NGK TR6\'S gapped .045,ZZP UD WP Pulley,SLP Fan Switch,TT II\'s<br />N/A: 15.6342 @ 88.44 (On stock converter. Strugglin\' to beat it.)<br />Nitrous 50 Shot: 14.7463 @ 93.49Comment
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hmmm... cuz i have B&B exhaust, SLP CAI, i just ordered Dee's TB Spacer
so do u think it will help performance any?<b>*§*Julian*§*</b><br />*~*~*~<br />2000 Grand Prix GTP -Daytona 500 Edition (only 2000 made) - Supercharged 3.8L V6<br /><br />1998 3.8L V6 A4 Firebird w/ W68 package, Y87, T-TOPS!<br /><br /><a href=\"http://myweb.usf.edu/~jadidona/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">MY SITE - CHECK IT!</a>Comment
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by SuprSpdDB7:
hmmm... cuz i have B&B exhaust, SLP CAI, i just ordered Dee's TB Spacer
so do u think it will help performance any?<hr></blockquote>
Couldn't hurt. This is how I analyze a mod. CAI=More Air/Velocity. B&B exhaust=better exhaust evacuation, more air coming in. Throttle body spacer. Cooler air=denser air=more air molecules. TB Spacer also equals an extention of intake plenum, which equals higher air velocity, which provides better atomization of fuel mix. More air coming in=more fuel added by PCM. Light that mixture with a bigger spark, more combustion. More combustion, bigger push on the cylinders. Bigger push, more power! That's the theory anyway. ;) To be honest with you, I would have never have gotten the MSD DIS-4 if I hadn't planned on upgraded coils, wires and plugs. I have the wires and plugs, but haven't installed them yet. Can't wait.
I think my chip is helping also, with the richer mix. You gotta look at your whole system, and the principles behind a mod.<b>1998 Firebird 3800 Series II, A4</b><br />Direct-Flo Lid,K&N Filter,DEE TB Spacer,TPS-TEC,ZZP Mini-AFC,Raised and Cutout Airbox 7mm,BMR STB & Boxed LCAs,KYB AGX Shocks,Drilled/Slotted Rotors,180* Thermo,2.5\" Catco Cat,Dynomax 2.75\" custom catback,Kumho Ecstas/245,Jet Stage 2,3.42,Edge Racing 2870 Stall,B&M Tranny Cooler,B&M Deep Tranny Pan,LSD,AAM Girdle,1LE DS,NX Wet Kit,MSD DIS-4,MSD Blaster Coil Packs,Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires,NGK TR6\'S gapped .045,ZZP UD WP Pulley,SLP Fan Switch,TT II\'s<br />N/A: 15.6342 @ 88.44 (On stock converter. Strugglin\' to beat it.)<br />Nitrous 50 Shot: 14.7463 @ 93.49Comment
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http://mods.firebirdv6.com/msd/
It's been sitting in our Modifications Encylopedia
http://mods.firebirdv6.com/
:( Sure would be nice if it got used ;)
[ December 25, 2002: Message edited by: Dojo2000 ]</p>~Derrick <a href=\"http://www.appstate.edu/~do54457/\" target=\"_blank\"><i>My Webpage</i></a><br /><b>\'96 3.8L V6 M5 Firebird Y87</b> | <b>162.8 RWHP</b> / <b>196.7 RWTQ</b> <br /><b>•</b> SLP CAI <b>•</b> <a href=\"http://tech.firebirdv6.com/y87.html\" target=\"_blank\"><b>Y87</b> Package</a> - 3.23s <b>•</b> 180º thermo w/ fan switch <b>•</b> TB spacer from DEE<br />1991 Jeep Cherokee Laredo 4x4Comment
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I used it way back.<b>1998 Firebird 3800 Series II, A4</b><br />Direct-Flo Lid,K&N Filter,DEE TB Spacer,TPS-TEC,ZZP Mini-AFC,Raised and Cutout Airbox 7mm,BMR STB & Boxed LCAs,KYB AGX Shocks,Drilled/Slotted Rotors,180* Thermo,2.5\" Catco Cat,Dynomax 2.75\" custom catback,Kumho Ecstas/245,Jet Stage 2,3.42,Edge Racing 2870 Stall,B&M Tranny Cooler,B&M Deep Tranny Pan,LSD,AAM Girdle,1LE DS,NX Wet Kit,MSD DIS-4,MSD Blaster Coil Packs,Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires,NGK TR6\'S gapped .045,ZZP UD WP Pulley,SLP Fan Switch,TT II\'s<br />N/A: 15.6342 @ 88.44 (On stock converter. Strugglin\' to beat it.)<br />Nitrous 50 Shot: 14.7463 @ 93.49Comment
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Dojo2000:
http://mods.firebirdv6.com/msd/
It's been sitting in our Modifications Encylopedia
http://mods.firebirdv6.com/
:( Sure would be nice if it got used ;)
[ December 25, 2002: Message edited by: Dojo2000 ]<hr></blockquote>
woah... i have never seen it in there b4... it must be new
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