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    I am at a loss . I have a 97 Firebird with new fuel filter,air filter,plug wires,plugs ,egr,fuel pressure tested , and no code reading . This started about six months ago . Unless it is pretty cold outside the car will not start on less than the third try, and now it seems to be getting worse every once in a while it takes four trys . Any ideas ? I have already replaced the battery,and if I do not solve this soon I know I will be replacing the starter as well . Thanks

  • #2
    Re: Cranks on third try !

    Does it crank over when your attempting to start it?

    Cranks, but doesnt start? or doesnt crank at all...
    *Matt


    Old people shouldnt use the internet.

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    • #3
      Re: Cranks on third try !

      Yes the engine turns just fine ,but will not fire untill the third try no matter how long you spin the engine on the first two try's . ?? Also two of the three coil packs have been replaced. Replacing the third one this week .

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      • #4
        Re: Cranks on third try !

        i had a problem similar, though it would crank about on the second time normally
        i had to get my fuel pump replaced along with a tune..
        the car had been sitting in a garage for about 2 years prior to this(i was third owner)
        upon getting my pump replaced, started up immediately :tup:

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        • #5
          Re: Cranks on third try !

          check if you have spark during the first to crankings.

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          • #6
            Re: Cranks on third try !

            Crank that soulja' boy!!! Maybe starter is weak???



            :)
            Last edited by kala; 01-20-2008, 03:46 PM.
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            • #7
              Re: Cranks on third try !

              Yea I have a feeling it is the fuel pump . I question the mechanic who said it tested fine . I was not to impressed with his work.

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              • #8
                Re: Cranks on third try !

                I will . Thanks

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                • #9
                  Re: Cranks on third try !

                  fuel pressure regulator
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                  1997 3800 Series II Camaro
                  4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
                  7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
                  11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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                  • #10
                    Re: Cranks on third try !

                    Where is the regulator located ? How do you test ?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Cranks on third try !

                      Originally posted by RUN I-10
                      Where is the regulator located ? How do you test ?
                      it on the back of the fuel rail on the drive side....

                      you need a fuel pressure tester to test it
                      www.turbov6camaro.com
                      1997 3800 Series II Camaro
                      4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
                      7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
                      11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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                      • #12
                        Re: Cranks on third try !

                        maybe your fuel pump is weak, mine is and start at the third crank, when you turn the ingnition on, you hear the pump, then stops(2-3 secs), in the second crank try a little bit more, just to activate again the pump relay, you'll hear it again and stopping, maybe slowing down(mine do), then, in the third crank, the pump build the neccesary pressure to fire the engine and starts nicely:) that is the way i start my car in the morning lol, in the rest of the day i did'nt need to do that to start my car ;)

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                        • #13
                          Re: Cranks on third try !

                          maybe put it into accessory 3 times before you try to turn the starter? so the pump can build up the necessary pressure?

                          just my .02... i always let the fuel pump whine for its 3 seconds before i crank it

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                          • #14
                            Re: Cranks on third try !

                            a fue lpsi test will tell you if it is the pump or the FPR
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                            1997 3800 Series II Camaro
                            4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
                            7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
                            11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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                            • #15
                              Re: Cranks on third try !

                              Thanks for the info . I was going to ask you how do I know which one is the problem . I did turn to accessary three times before I tried to start ,and it fired on the first try !

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