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    i took my intake manifold, valve covers, throttle body, alternator, fuel rails, injectors, coil packs, and EGR (replaced EGR when done also) off my car recently to paint the fuel rails and valve covers and polish the intake, TB and alternator housing. Well i finally put it all back together today, fired the car up, and it runs like absolute ****. it fires up, and then settles down into the worst idle ever, almost dies, which it might if id let it run. it doesnt sound like your everyday small vacuum leak. im afraid to let the car run any longer than a few seconds because it sounds so bad. any thoughts?

    1999 Firebird Y87/W68

  • #2
    Re: engine runs absolutely horribly

    maybe you ffffd up one of the seals, probably intake related. Is your TB hooking up alright? You could try choking the engine a lot and see if it gets better or worse- that'll give you some ideas on what the problem is.

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    • #3
      Re: engine runs absolutely horribly

      one of the seals? i replaced all the gaskets i took off with new ones. yeah, the throttle body is all hooked up right.

      1999 Firebird Y87/W68

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      • #4
        Re: engine runs absolutely horribly

        spark plugs tight and not arcing or on the wrong cylinder?

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        • #5
          Re: engine runs absolutely horribly

          Originally posted by bottlefedv6 View Post
          spark plugs tight and not arcing or on the wrong cylinder?
          this is what I'm thinking; when I had my plug wires on wrong, the car ran, but horribly; it would backfire constantly and would die unless I gave it some gas. Follow each wire from the coils to the plugs


          Cylinder order (starting at the back, working towards nose of car):
          6 5
          4 3
          2 1

          Coil order (starting at the back, working towards nose of car):

          1&4
          5&2
          3&6
          ~97 3.8L V6 Camaro~
          A few things

          Only Member of Team Hooker?!?

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          • #6
            Re: engine runs absolutely horribly

            yeah we got the plugs in the right spots, i triple checked and whatnot. we tinkered around a little bit and it sounds a little better now...not much better. but if this helps, i gave it some gas, and blue smoke came out the exhaust...blue??? what does that mean haha. still troubleshooting...any advice is helpful

            also, when i rev the car a bit around 2000RPM's you can hear a sort of clicking noise from the exhaust. it might not be a clicking or more like a fast stutter, im not sure.

            a scanner would be nice to see codes being thrown...but ive always had a check engine light from my high flow cat, and i dont have a scanner or know anyone that has one :(

            1999 Firebird Y87/W68

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            • #7
              Re: engine runs absolutely horribly

              alright, ive got a pretty good idea of what it might be. i was thinking it might be a bad coil pack, and i called a friend of mine that has had coil pack problems before and described the symptoms of my car, and he described his back to me, and they sound exactly the same. so tomorrow im gonna get a new one and see if thats the problem...hopefully it is

              1999 Firebird Y87/W68

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              • #8
                Re: engine runs absolutely horribly

                Originally posted by 99BlackW68 View Post
                but if this helps, i gave it some gas, and blue smoke came out the exhaust...blue??? what does that mean haha. still troubleshooting...any advice is helpful
                I believe blue tinted exhuast = oil realated problems.

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                • #9
                  Re: engine runs absolutely horribly

                  I would check your spark plugs and see if they are coated in oil if you are having smoke like that.

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                  • #10
                    Re: engine runs absolutely horribly

                    Originally posted by Crazed98Camaro View Post
                    I believe blue tinted exhuast = oil realated problems.
                    sometimes

                    it can als be unburnt fuel

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                    • #11
                      Re: engine runs absolutely horribly

                      blue is pretty much always oil and generally...
                      not the best of signs. Might want to take your car to a pro.

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                      • #12
                        Re: engine runs absolutely horribly

                        Originally posted by zpwn06 View Post
                        blue is pretty much always oil and generally...
                        not the best of signs. Might want to take your car to a pro.
                        my other camaro puffs out blue smoke and the rings are fine

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                        • #13
                          Re: engine runs absolutely horribly

                          Originally posted by cam98aro View Post
                          my other camaro puffs out blue smoke and the rings are fine
                          ...
                          and?

                          that would worry me even more.

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                          • #14
                            Re: engine runs absolutely horribly

                            Originally posted by 99BlackW68 View Post
                            alright, ive got a pretty good idea of what it might be. i was thinking it might be a bad coil pack, and i called a friend of mine that has had coil pack problems before and described the symptoms of my car, and he described his back to me, and they sound exactly the same. so tomorrow im gonna get a new one and see if thats the problem...hopefully it is
                            Unplug the wires from the coil pack and see if the car's problem changes. If so, it's most likely not that coil pack. Like they said, blue smoke is usually oil.
                            ~97 3.8L V6 Camaro~
                            A few things

                            Only Member of Team Hooker?!?

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                            • #15
                              Re: engine runs absolutely horribly

                              Originally posted by zpwn06 View Post
                              ...
                              and?

                              that would worry me even more.
                              it is unburnt gas

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