hi guys,,,,,how do you have to use restore? .. put it with motor oil,,or you have to use restore alone??
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Screw this restore stuff; get some SeaFoam and you'll be fine :) Read the stickies, and you'll find a good tut on doing a full tune-up using seafoam that'll clean the motor out real nicely :D~97 3.8L V6 Camaro~
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Restore gets added to the motor oil when you do an oil change. No, it does not put "gunky stuff" on the cylinder walls. I used Restore in my Chrysler for 20K miles right before I rebuilt the motor (upgrade not failure) and it had no ill effects on the engine internals.
I could see where you might have issues if you don't change the oil regularly but then you have bigger problems than Restore will fix.
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Originally posted by dobie View PostRestore gets added to the motor oil when you do an oil change. No, it does not put "gunky stuff" on the cylinder walls. I used Restore in my Chrysler for 20K miles right before I rebuilt the motor (upgrade not failure) and it had no ill effects on the engine internals.
I could see where you might have issues if you don't change the oil regularly but then you have bigger problems than Restore will fix.
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Originally posted by cam98aro View Postif it doesnt put anything on your cylinder walls, then you just proved to everyone that it in fact doesnt work
Second, when I first looked at trying it I had the same concerns about it "gunking up" the engine internals but knowing that I was going to rebuild the motor I figured I'd try it to see if it works. I could feel a performance difference and my compression improved on several cylinders, so I would say it worked. When I opened up the motor there was no "gunk" in it which was also good.
Third, I don't really care if you use Restore or not, it worked for me in my situation but your results may vary. It also didn't hurt my engine but once again your results may vary. I don't know how you can bash a product that you have no personal experience with.
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Originally posted by dobie View PostFirst off, I said it doesn't "gunk up" the cylinder walls and that was in response to a previous post.
Second, when I first looked at trying it I had the same concerns about it "gunking up" the engine internals but knowing that I was going to rebuild the motor I figured I'd try it to see if it works. I could feel a performance difference and my compression improved on several cylinders, so I would say it worked. When I opened up the motor there was no "gunk" in it which was also good.
Third, I don't really care if you use Restore or not, it worked for me in my situation but your results may vary. It also didn't hurt my engine but once again your results may vary. I don't know how you can bash a product that you have no personal experience with.
1. put crap on your cylinder walls
2. change the weight of your oil
and you are right, i cant bash a product that i have never used.. and i will never use an engine additive unless it is absolutely necessary, all they do is hide problems and make them worse in the long run which requires more money to fix
and IIRC, restore actually claims it "fills" in the bad spots on the cylinder wall, i have heard it turns into something almost like a glue that your rings seat against
btw im not trying to fight with you
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Originally posted by 3.4orNothing View Postso true.......
would you like me to buy a can, put it in my oil, and come back and say the same things i have been saying this whole time?
engine additives only do one thing hide your problem and make it WORSE
i dont care what it is, seafoam, restore, engine honey, slick 50, etc etc.
most engine related things are due to wear.. meaning there is no metal where it used to be.. do you honestly believe that pouring some goop from a can is going to fix thousands and thousands of miles of wear?
im not trying to be mean, im just trying to get people to understand, and not waste their money on that nonsense... now i WILL admit, engine additives DO WORK, but ONLY if they are used from the very beginning.. for instance, i would never pour seafoam in an engines crankcase with 120k miles on it (unless it had a major problem) but i would use it on a brand new car before each oil change
or think of it like that poison ivy cleaner.. if you use it before it shows up, you dont get poison ivy, but trying to use it after you have the rash will do nothing because it is too late
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I think the piece of information we are all missing is "What is the problem you are trying to solve by using restore in the first place?!"
Our V6s are pretty darn near bullet proof unless they were abused. As I've stated before, I've been beating the snot out of my engine for 12 years and 222k miles and I never even had to think of using a product like restore.
The problem with products like restore is that they are bandaids that try to cover up symptoms that could be a lot more severe than we want to admit to ourselves. For example, restore is made to restore compression in older or high mileage engines. I'm willing to bet that I've got one of the highest mileage engines on this board and I have never seen any symptom that would lead me to believe that I've lost compression. Yes, I've been using Mobil 1 since my first oil change, but I don't think that's given me that much more protection than any other reputable oil. If your engine can't hold compression, you have something pretty serious going on and a product like restore will probably only mask the real issue until another, more serious symptom shows up that might kill your engine.
Part of the reason I've been able to get so many miles out of this motor is that I don't do bandaids. If something is broken, find out what is is and fix it. If you can't afford for a shop to do it, check out a good repair manual from the library and do it yourself. It'll probably be fun and save your engine.Last edited by rhouse21; 09-18-2008, 09:23 PM.1997 Camaro, Y87 Perf. Package, iRotor Drilled & Slotted Brakes, Bilstien Shocks, Custom drive shaft, K&N Filter, & Mobil 1 synthetic. 202+K miles and still drives like new.<br />-If you can\'t stomp \'em in the straights, kill \'em in the corners...
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Originally posted by rhouse21 View PostI think the piece of information we are all missing is "What is the problem you are trying to solve by using restore in the first place?!"
The problem with products like restore is that they are bandaids that try to cover up symptoms that could be a lot more severe than we want to admit to ourselves. For example, restore is made to restore compression in older or high mileage engines.
I agree with you, restore is a bandaid and the proper repair is a re-ring job at a minimum or a full out rebuild. But not everyone can afford that so restore will buy you some time until you can afford to either fix it, replace it, or kill it. And the only point I was trying to make is that IF you decide to use it you will not have any issues if/when you decide to rebuild it.
I use Valvoline Synthetic in all of my cars so I don't ever plan on needing restore but if the occasion arose where it would solve a problem I was having I wouldn't hesitate to use it again.
I still have the uncleaned pistons from the Chrysler that I used restore in and I can post some pictures of the rings if you want to see them.
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