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    Hey i was talking with the dealer they said the only major difference with the 3.8's and 3.4's is how they breath and the bore is this true also will i beneifit nicely if i excrude hone both lower and upper intakes as well as port and polish heads
    My new ride 2000 camaro, No mods yet still waiting for warranty to run out then all out heads, cam, and supercharger

  • #2
    the 3.4 is a stroked(?) 2.8, where as the 3.8 is a totally new engine.

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    • #3
      Whats a stroked and what will the intake work do for me with a head job
      My new ride 2000 camaro, No mods yet still waiting for warranty to run out then all out heads, cam, and supercharger

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      • #4
        The 3.4 and 3.8 are two totally different beasts. The 3.4 is a 60 degree V6, with a sequential firing order (1-2-3-4-5-6). The 3.8 is a 90 degree V6, with a non-sequential firing order (something like 1-5-4-6-3-2, but you get the point).
        The 3.4 uses only a Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor, the 3.8 uses a MAP and a Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor.
        About the only things that they have in common are that they are both V6s, and they are both mounted in Camaros.
        Wife and a dog, they both think they\'re Kujo.<br /> <br />1999 3.8 A4 Y87<br />Navy Blue Metallic<br />BFG G-Force KDWS 275/40/17s, <br />WS6 Wheels (17x9)<br />Phoenix Transmissions 2400 Stall Converter<br />FRA, Holley Powershot filter, Whisper Lid, Ported Throttlebody<br />2000 manifolds, Flowmaster, WS6 Tail Pipes, <br />MSD 8.5mm Wires, MSD Coils, Autolite plugs<br />Performance Cryogenics treated rotors<br />1LE Sway Bars and panhard rod, 1LE front springs w/SLP Bilsteins, stock rear springs w/ 3rd Gen Bilsteins, BMR STB, KBDD SFCs, 1LE rear lower control arms, 1LE front lower control arms<p>1968 Chevelle Malibu 327 TH350

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        • #5
          3.8 fires in (1-6-5-4-3-2)
          2001 SOM Camaro SS<p>Direct flo lid---Lakewood LCAs----Edelbrock Torque Arm-----Lous Short Stick---Dynomouth 3\" Exhaust---SLP Center Mount Exhaust---Poly tranny and torque arm mounts.<p>My site....http://community.webshots.com/album/49413018hRfdbP

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          • #6
            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Guardsman:
            The 3.4 and 3.8 are two totally different beasts. The 3.4 is a 60 degree V6, with a sequential firing order (1-2-3-4-5-6)<hr></blockquote>

            I think you are confusing this with sequential fuel injection. There is nothing special about a "sequential firing order" and I don't even think that term exists in the automotive world.
            Dan<br />1990 RS 170,000 miles<br />3.4L collecting dust<br />700R4-to-T5 swap completed on Dec. 13, 2002

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            • #7
              I'm just using sequential in terms of it firing 1-2-3-4, etc., as opposed to 1-6-5-4-3-2 (thanks chev). Actually, I think the terms are odd and even fire, not sure. Anyways, I justed wanted to relay the basic information.
              Wife and a dog, they both think they\'re Kujo.<br /> <br />1999 3.8 A4 Y87<br />Navy Blue Metallic<br />BFG G-Force KDWS 275/40/17s, <br />WS6 Wheels (17x9)<br />Phoenix Transmissions 2400 Stall Converter<br />FRA, Holley Powershot filter, Whisper Lid, Ported Throttlebody<br />2000 manifolds, Flowmaster, WS6 Tail Pipes, <br />MSD 8.5mm Wires, MSD Coils, Autolite plugs<br />Performance Cryogenics treated rotors<br />1LE Sway Bars and panhard rod, 1LE front springs w/SLP Bilsteins, stock rear springs w/ 3rd Gen Bilsteins, BMR STB, KBDD SFCs, 1LE rear lower control arms, 1LE front lower control arms<p>1968 Chevelle Malibu 327 TH350

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              • #8
                <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Guardsman:
                I'm just using sequential in terms of it firing 1-2-3-4, etc., as opposed to 1-6-5-4-3-2 (thanks chev). Actually, I think the terms are odd and even fire, not sure. Anyways, I justed wanted to relay the basic information.<hr></blockquote>

                Hehe, sorry, I gotta do this. Actually, in an even fire motor, the crank rotates the same amount of degrees between every cylinder fire. In an odd fire motor, the crank doesn't spin equal amounts for every cylinder fire.

                Example for an even fire motor: To fire all 6 cylinders, the crank will spin 720 degrees. Every time a cylinder fires the crank spins 120 degrees.
                120+120+120+120+120+120= 720

                Example for an odd fire motor: The motor will fire a cylinder every 90 degrees, then every 150 degrees, the every 90 degrees....etc.
                90+150+90+150+90+150= 720
                Dan<br />1990 RS 170,000 miles<br />3.4L collecting dust<br />700R4-to-T5 swap completed on Dec. 13, 2002

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                • #9
                  Well slap my *** , and call me Sally! :D I was wrong again. Cool, thanks for the info Dan :D .

                  [ March 30, 2002: Message edited by: Guardsman ]</p>
                  Wife and a dog, they both think they\'re Kujo.<br /> <br />1999 3.8 A4 Y87<br />Navy Blue Metallic<br />BFG G-Force KDWS 275/40/17s, <br />WS6 Wheels (17x9)<br />Phoenix Transmissions 2400 Stall Converter<br />FRA, Holley Powershot filter, Whisper Lid, Ported Throttlebody<br />2000 manifolds, Flowmaster, WS6 Tail Pipes, <br />MSD 8.5mm Wires, MSD Coils, Autolite plugs<br />Performance Cryogenics treated rotors<br />1LE Sway Bars and panhard rod, 1LE front springs w/SLP Bilsteins, stock rear springs w/ 3rd Gen Bilsteins, BMR STB, KBDD SFCs, 1LE rear lower control arms, 1LE front lower control arms<p>1968 Chevelle Malibu 327 TH350

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                  • #10
                    WAM!!!!......Sally
                    <b>99\' Black Camaro SS</b> <br />M6/T-Tops - SLPLid w/K&N | Hurst Billet Plus w/ LSS | EGR Mod<p>Black 97\' Camaro T-Tops (RIP)

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                    • #11
                      <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Guardsman:
                      [QB]Well slap my *** , and call me Sally! :D I was wrong again. Cool, thanks for the info Dan :D .
                      <hr></blockquote>

                      LOL, no prob Sally.

                      :D :D
                      Dan<br />1990 RS 170,000 miles<br />3.4L collecting dust<br />700R4-to-T5 swap completed on Dec. 13, 2002

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