Cone Filter intake and the IAT

[Sticky]

I was wondering what the people who took their intake off completely and bolted a K&N filter to teh throttle body did with the IAT, I assumed that you would just leave it hanging by the intake. And yes I've read all the arguments against it, but I ahve no Credit/Debit card for now so I can't order stuff online.

[HBHRacing]

if you have a MAF it will not work. but also there is the fact that the incoming air will be extrealy hot due to it's proximity to the motor. There is also an argument for flow velocity VS CFM.

[lon elliott]

i did this for a little while, i went from a CAI to just having the filter on the TB. Horrible. I mean Horrible performance, lost anything resembling throttle response, ran like poo. Put the CAI back on and wammo, throttle response is back and runs much smoother, i would say for the price of the K and N you can make a CAI that will last you some time.

[HBHRacing]

I would liken it to adding 5 inch exhaust pipes. Flows plenty but has no velocity... Maybe at about 6500 RPM you would see a little increese in power.. But you gota ask youself would that mean a damn thing?

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by HBHRacing:
if you have a MAF it will not work. but also there is the fact that the incoming air will be extrealy hot due to it's proximity to the motor. There is also an argument for flow velocity VS CFM.

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I had my car like this for 3 years and it was fine, when moving over 25 MPH the air coming into the motor is at the temp outside the car or maybe 5* more. (yes i used a scanner and logged it)
i just put the IAT in the filter and it works fine no weired reading from the MAF that i could see/feel/ see in the scan tool.

if you look at my cam video yo can see it in there.

if you have a straight TB you may get a bit hotter air becaus in the 97 the tunlens under the hood driect air into the TB, only way to tell is a scan tool tho

[ November 18, 2004, 09:05 AM: Message edited by: viper04af ]

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by HBHRacing:
I would liken it to adding 5 inch exhaust pipes. Flows plenty but has no velocity... Maybe at about 6500 RPM you would see a little increese in power.. But you gota ask youself would that mean a damn thing?

every HP counts.... lol

BTW, with everything you know about exuast..... could i get more power from a full exuast then with a my open down pipe?

[HBHRacing]

how the hell can you not have adverse effects from a MAF when it's not even hooked up? You had a filter attached to the throttle body and nothing esle???

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by HBHRacing:
how the hell can you not have adverse effects from a MAF when it's not even hooked up? You had a filter attached to the throttle body and nothing esle???

err what
our MAF is inside our TB. the only way to unhook it is to un plug it from the harness or remove the 2 screws holding it in and take it out

yes my filt is on the TB
www.turbov6camaro.com/video.html check out my cam videos you can see it

but the intake AIR temp you can just put it on the inside of the filter

EDIT: i see you have Z28, you maf is external to you TB ours is not

[ November 18, 2004, 12:18 PM: Message edited by: viper04af ]

[HBHRacing]

the 99+ are internal I know but I am not awae of the ealier years.. if thats true then you should be all right unless you flow more then the MAF VS TPS map wants to see and sets a SES... but, even with the TB pointed down i bet if you look a laser thermometer and hit the filter near the motor and a filter placed where it normaly wold be with a CAI you will find that it's a bit warmer. You also have to figure like I said before. Flow VS velocity.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by HBHRacing:
the 99+ are internal I know but I am not awae of the ealier years.. if thats true then you should be all right unless you flow more then the MAF VS TPS map wants to see and sets a SES... but, even with the TB pointed down i bet if you look a laser thermometer and hit the filter near the motor and a filter placed where it normaly wold be with a CAI you will find that it's a bit warmer. You also have to figure like I said before. Flow VS velocity.

95.5-98 are the same tb, the 99+ is sraight and the, but hte 2000 and up are drive bye wire. and the 99+ tb is a different bolt patteren casue GM is gay

[Sticky]

I have a '98. So, all I need to do is put the sensor into the filter and clamp it on? Sounds simple enough.

[HBHRacing]

try it. and tell us how much of a power loss you feel.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by HBHRacing:
try it. and tell us how much of a power loss you feel.

i didn't feel any power loss and i picked up 1-2 MPG on average over the stocker system