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  • Pacesetter headers for 3.4 without A/C ?

    Despite the problems recently with Pacesetter headers, I'm thinking I should be safe in purchasing a set for my 3.4 'bird as every picture I've seen show a 2-piece Y-pipe. Summit's price is $318 for the armor coat ones.

    However according to the description these will not fit cars with A/C, so do all you 3.4 owners out there not have air or will they still fit with modification?

    http://store.summitracing.com/partde...2C1208&view=33
    1994 Firebird 3.4<br />15.65 @ 86.8<br /><a href=\"http://www.funkz.net/firebird.htm\" target=\"_blank\">funkz.net/firebird</a><br /><a href=\"http://mywebpages.comcast.net/funkz/timeslips.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Timeslips</a>

  • #2
    They will fit with AC.
    - Josh<br />If you have any questions or need installation pics/help, e-mail me: Viper98885@aol.com<br /><a href=\"http://Camaroz28.cardomain.com/id/viper98885\" target=\"_blank\">\'93 Camaro Hardtop</a><br /><a href=\"http://Camaroz28.cardomain.com/id/01lincolnls8\" target=\"_blank\">\'01 Lincoln LS8 Sport</a><br />\'00 Yamaha YZF-R6<br /><a href=\"http://www.ftpp.net\" target=\"_blank\">Full Throttle Performance</a>

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    • #3
      yup fit with ac.
      My Car <a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/tucsoncamaro\" target=\"_blank\">http://members.cardomain.com/tucsoncamaro</a> <br />3 inch flowmaster catback system, with ceramic coated pacesetter headers,3 inch cat,K&N FIPK

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      • #4
        Either way im good, mine are getting put on with the motor outta the car.
        New:04 GMC Sierra 1500 RCLB 4x4 5.3 GU80 3.73\'s.<br />Truck pics<br />Mods<br />Go fast: Panel K&N filter and soon SS truck catback.<br />Appearance: Stull Billet grill,Weston Chrome step tubes,Rhino Chrome hitch step,ARE painted fiberglass cover,Silver star lighting.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by FunkZ:
          Despite the problems recently with Pacesetter headers, I'm thinking I should be safe in purchasing a set for my 3.4 'bird as every picture I've seen show a 2-piece Y-pipe. Summit's price is $318 for the armor coat ones.

          However according to the description these will not fit cars with A/C, so do all you 3.4 owners out there not have air or will they still fit with modification?

          http://store.summitracing.com/partde...2C1208&view=33
          Im pretty sure it means if wont fit cars with A.I.R. Air injection reactor or something. if you have a smog pump, ou cant run pacesetters
          1997 Camaro 15.3@91 with a 2.35 60ft-B&M Ripper, SLP Knob, SLP CAI, LT1 DS, EBC Pads. 1994 Camaro(Sadly Sold)-Hi flow cat, custom flowmaster american thunder cat back, KN FIPK, Accel wires, Plat plugs, 160 thermo, Fastchip, Pacesetters.

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          • #6
            Okay, thanks Red I did get that clarified and you're correct, I took "w/o air" to mean A/C but it is referring to the AIR injection.

            So my car does have the air pump. The pump line is threaded into the passenger side exhaust manifold near where the EGR is located. I take it then the Pacesetter headers don't have a bung to connect this line? Are there 3.4 Fbodies that don't have the pump? Why would some have and some not?
            1994 Firebird 3.4<br />15.65 @ 86.8<br /><a href=\"http://www.funkz.net/firebird.htm\" target=\"_blank\">funkz.net/firebird</a><br /><a href=\"http://mywebpages.comcast.net/funkz/timeslips.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Timeslips</a>

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            • #7
              I thought only a manual 3.4 would have an air pump. huh
              ---Niño---<br /><i>95\' silver 5 spd</i>

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              • #8
                Well, mine is a 5 speed. So automatics don't have the pump?
                1994 Firebird 3.4<br />15.65 @ 86.8<br /><a href=\"http://www.funkz.net/firebird.htm\" target=\"_blank\">funkz.net/firebird</a><br /><a href=\"http://mywebpages.comcast.net/funkz/timeslips.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Timeslips</a>

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                • #9
                  If you have the smog pump, you will be okay, just take it out. Just because you have the smog pump doesn't mean that you CANNOT install them. Just do a clean removal, where you can't tell that a smog pump was there, and you will be alright.
                  - Josh<br />If you have any questions or need installation pics/help, e-mail me: Viper98885@aol.com<br /><a href=\"http://Camaroz28.cardomain.com/id/viper98885\" target=\"_blank\">\'93 Camaro Hardtop</a><br /><a href=\"http://Camaroz28.cardomain.com/id/01lincolnls8\" target=\"_blank\">\'01 Lincoln LS8 Sport</a><br />\'00 Yamaha YZF-R6<br /><a href=\"http://www.ftpp.net\" target=\"_blank\">Full Throttle Performance</a>

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                  • #10
                    Considering it, however they now do visual emissions inspections in my county, which means they look to make sure all emissions gear is in place. I don't know if they would know whether there was supposed to be a pump there or not. That's why I was asking which 3.4's had pumps and which did not.
                    1994 Firebird 3.4<br />15.65 @ 86.8<br /><a href=\"http://www.funkz.net/firebird.htm\" target=\"_blank\">funkz.net/firebird</a><br /><a href=\"http://mywebpages.comcast.net/funkz/timeslips.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Timeslips</a>

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                    • #11
                      When you do the installation of the headers, you can remove the smog pump and related plumbing in a way so that they would not know if there was one there or not. You remove the whole pump and everything.
                      - Josh<br />If you have any questions or need installation pics/help, e-mail me: Viper98885@aol.com<br /><a href=\"http://Camaroz28.cardomain.com/id/viper98885\" target=\"_blank\">\'93 Camaro Hardtop</a><br /><a href=\"http://Camaroz28.cardomain.com/id/01lincolnls8\" target=\"_blank\">\'01 Lincoln LS8 Sport</a><br />\'00 Yamaha YZF-R6<br /><a href=\"http://www.ftpp.net\" target=\"_blank\">Full Throttle Performance</a>

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                      • #12
                        hehe, i removed my air pump, but theres this metal tubing i couldnt get at behind my engine to remove, damn it.
                        \'94 Firebird, 3.4 M5.<br />Arctic white w/ red anniversary stripe. ASP underdrive pulley set, Magnaflow 2.5\" stainless catback, CAT, Pacesetters, K&N FIPK2, 1000 watt stereo system capped 1F, Eagle Alloys 16\" 077\'s, 180 Deg. Thermo.

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