what are the best headers for cars?

[ordlord11]

what are the best headers for cars? I'm getting ready to buy soon and want the best.

[hawgs]

CIA headers are the best. Stay away from Pacesetters... I wish I would have.

[BLUE]

Yeah what he said. ^^^

[FloydSummerOf68]

Yeah...before I would have suggested getting pacesetters.
Too bad they went to crap on everyone else.
I'm glad I atleast got a good pair.
But like Hawgs said...get CIA...they're good.
Also, this should be in Intake/Exhaust

[Tyler]

im happy with pacesetter.. i had zero problems

[FloydSummerOf68]

Apparently you didnt read a post in the last 2 months.
I had no problems with mine either about 6 months ago.
Everyone who ordered them recently got terrible ones that would not fit. The Y-pipe was too wide and they had to take it to a shop to have it fit.
Pacesetter gave some BS solution and now no one likes them.

[OneQuickV6]

I'd still get the Pacesetter's, even knowing that they have had problems! Any good exhaust shop should be able to fix the problem for well under $50! Not saying it's cool that it has to be done, but they are going to perform withing 1 rwhp of the CIA's, for several hundred $'s less. Just my opinion.

[njp98]

Or you can buy my barely used coated CIA headers that I'm selling, e-mail me if you're interested.

[hawgs]

I just think Pacesetter is a sh*tty company for putting this product out. You should NOT have to buy something and take it elsewhere to get fixed. There are HUGE problems with these headers.

I had to fork out an extra 150 bucks to get mine fixed.

ypipe was messed up where it met the header.
ypipe was rubbing on a peice of the transmission.
headers rub on the steering linkage.

IF you want to deal with all these and have to take it to a shop then sure... order paceseters. However, like you said in your post, if you want the best and want them to fit right out of the box then I would go with CIA. Pacesetters are FAR from being the best.

[FloydSummerOf68]

I agree...a company should not put out a product that is as bad as what has been dealt with.
Showing the company support by still buying their product definatley will not make them fix the problem but will make them think that since their name is so big its alright.
PLUS I thought they were going to stop selling pacesetters until the fixed something...but I could be wrong about that.
A few months ago I would have praised pacesetter after putting mine on and everything fitting perfectly. But they have definatley lost my support by seeing first hand what kind of crappy product they sold to other people.

[LARRYfireBIRD33]

Well the only problem I have with the CIA headers are their primaries. They're only 1.5" compared to the 1.75" primaries of the RKsport or Pacesetters. If you are just going to do basic mods, the CIA's would be fine...but if you were to put a big cam, turbo, supercharger or run N20, you will definitely not be optimizing any of those power adders.

[speedy-v6-camaro]

How is this advanced?

[Clark Griswold]

Originally posted by speedy-v6-camaro:
How is this advanced?

We were waiting for captain obvious to arrive. Greetings!

[FloydSummerOf68]

Originally posted by FloydSummerOf68:

Also, this should be in Intake/Exhaust

Seems to me like I said it when this first started [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[DARK SDE '02]

The pricing difference between CIA and Pacesetters is huge isn't it? Last time I checked you could get coated Pacesetters with the y-pipe for around $300. Isn't CIA more like $500? My exhaust shop is competant, I'm sure it wouldn't take them any more than an hour to custom fit and install the headers. And like they said, the performance difference is minimal with a proper install (i.e. no leaks).