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    As far as performance, what do headers do and ruffly how much of a HP gain am i looking to get out of them. My car is almost all stock my mods are at the bottom of this post, please help.

    im looking for ways to gain HP that i can notice from the line and on top end. i want to go to the track but i dont want to get blown away
    My ride: <br /><a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/youngdeezy\" target=\"_blank\">http://members.cardomain.com/youngdeezy</a><br />98 Firebird 3.8L A4<br />Mods:80 seires flow master muffler<br />dual exhaust 3\" pipes,whisper lid<br />k&N filter,3.42 gears and LSD, 180 thermostat, free ram air mod & 1/2\" raised air box + some apperance mods<br />1/4 mile 15.8 @ 85mph<p>I\'ll see you in the traffic...

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    HEaders replace your exhaust manifolds. They flow better than a stock manifold but dont really increase power too much. I just bought some. They will go on in about a week or so. For more info check the website Modification Reviews section.

    OR: click here:

    http://reviews.firebirdv6.com/rksport38headers.htm

    [ August 07, 2002: Message edited by: pgriffith ]</p>

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    • #3
      On a stock car, figure 5-10 rwhp. they won't do as much as a cat-back will, since the worst restriction of the stock exhaust is the s-pipe. the headers will get you gains across the powerband though, and it won't move the powerband up or down like a cat-back will. However, when you do get a cat-back, you'll get a lot more top-end out of the car, especially if you get a bigger cat.
      2001 Arctic White Firebird<br />More mods than I\'m allowed to list!

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      • #4
        Incorrect, the length of headers determine the powerband!

        Shorty headers don't really do anything for below 8,000RPM driving - they simply smooth out the flow and look pretty.

        The only way you're going to see 5hp+ from headers is to go with custom longtubes tuned to your cam and engine powerband. Without the proper length tubing, and proper diameter for that matter, headers are nothing more than a fashion statement!
        2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
        Details: www.1lev6.com

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        • #5
          so cat-back is the way to go i guess. is the cat-back an up grade on the exhaust, what is it? sorry im culeless but thats why im here. what gains will the cat give #'s please thanks
          My ride: <br /><a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/youngdeezy\" target=\"_blank\">http://members.cardomain.com/youngdeezy</a><br />98 Firebird 3.8L A4<br />Mods:80 seires flow master muffler<br />dual exhaust 3\" pipes,whisper lid<br />k&N filter,3.42 gears and LSD, 180 thermostat, free ram air mod & 1/2\" raised air box + some apperance mods<br />1/4 mile 15.8 @ 85mph<p>I\'ll see you in the traffic...

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          • #6
            It's okay.

            #1 thing you need to do is go look under your car. Go crawl under it and try not to get stuck, stare and ponder and look at all the pieces and how they fit :D

            Now, a catback is simply piping which runs from the catalytic converter to a muffler, plus the muffler, plus the tail outlet pipes - somtimes even including tips. Catback exhaust systems do not include catalytic converters, but for our V6s it is adviseable to switch the stock 2.25" outlet one with one that fits your new system (2.5" or 3") for higher flow.

            Here is a little diagram [img]smile.gif[/img]
            http://members.cox.net/dgo/V6-ExhaustSystem.PNG

            Click that and view your exhaust system - enjoy.

            (yes, I drew that, for those who are wondering... Its not pretty but it works!!!)

            [ August 08, 2002: Message edited by: Dominic ]</p>
            2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
            Details: www.1lev6.com

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            • #7
              I wouldn't say that. Very nice job on the diagram. It gets the point across. :cool:
              <b>Red 1999 Firebird M5</b><br />Whisper Lid,Borla Catback,K&N,Dual Friction Center Force Clutch,Hurst Shifter w/Lou\'s Short Stick,!FRA,Suncoast Ramair hood,160 Thermo,!maf,Chrome ZO6 Wheels, Painted Calipers, CIA Headers, Taylor Wires, NGK Spark Plugs, 3\" Catco, Jet Chip Stage II, BMR STB, LCA, PHR, SFC, Fan Switch, FTRA<br /><b>Old Dyno Numbers: 183 RWHP, 217 RWTRQ</b><br /><a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/redsixer\" target=\"_blank\">http://community.webshots.com/user/redsixer</a>

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              • #8
                Its a work of art [img]graemlins/crybaby.gif[/img]
                99 3800 NBM Camaro - (Xcessive Xcelleration Racing Team)<br />Ram/Cold Air Induction (custom)<br />Modified 4l60e Valve Body<br />Z28 Catback<br />SS Hood <br />Modified 99 GM 3800II <br />JB Performance Engineering<br />jfbperformance@cox.net

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                • #9
                  what about a custom y pipe would that help changing the diameter of it?
                  no fate but what we make<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/748167/1\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/748167/1</a>

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                  • #10
                    This seems to have developed into a basic exhaust question.. so I'm moving it to the Intake/Exhaust section.
                    Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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