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  • #61
    Well Ive got good news and bad news.

    The good news is, Mad Hatter can and will be doing it.

    The bad news is, I've gotta wait one week. I drove 250 miles round trip to find that out... lol but it was worth it, since they can do it. $200 labor is what we agreed on, that includes piping... so my total cost is coming out around $470.
    2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
    Details: www.1lev6.com

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    • #62
      Glad I didn't drive up there to see it today! :eek:
      Matt
      1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
      Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.

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      • #63
        I was hoping to here a sound clip today. Oh well, I guess this means you have to make an extra long one for us to here :D . You are making one, right?
        2002 Camaro SS, 6 speed, SLP Loudmouth, TR 224/224 Camshaft(valvetrain upgraded), Pro 5.0 shifter / Hurst classic black knob.

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        • #64
          dude thats a lot of $$$ man. You already have most of piping. I don't see much more being needed, mainly just the extension from the driver side primary.

          My ENTIRE x-pipe setup w/mufflers and welding costs about $450
          Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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          • #65
            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Magnus:
            dude thats a lot of $$$ man. You already have most of piping. I don't see much more being needed, mainly just the extension from the driver side primary.

            My ENTIRE x-pipe setup w/mufflers and welding costs about $450
            <hr></blockquote>

            I agree.....You already have most of the stuff Dom....Thats way High...and trust me I live in a state where companies bend you over daily!
            Eric

            2005 Mustang 4.0
            1996 Camaro Conv
            2000 Ford Excursion

            "Darkness Falls"

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            • #66
              Remember, Im going over the axle. I think $200 is very fair for the work they will be doing.
              2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
              Details: www.1lev6.com

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              • #67
                Am I missing something here? You're planning on going out the back, which would mean that both pipes need to go side-by-side on the passenger side, then over the axle, then to tips that exit at the bumper? While not extremely difficult, that price doesn't seem outrageous for a custom muffler shop who doesn't know you on a personal level. Other alternative is that each pipe goes over the axle on it's respective side, which is much more difficult, but a little easier than most since you're using such small pipe. IMO $470 for duals out the back, with cats, doesn't sound bad at all. Most places charge like $300 just for a normal dumped dual setup (with bullets). The couple places I've tried for duals out the back with 2.5" pipe wanted at least $500 including mufflers and tips.
                <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/byoonull\" target=\"_blank\">My Old Car - 2000 Silver V6 Bird</a><br /><br />The replacement-<br />94 Firebird Formula - 383, TH400, and a big blower<br /> <a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/fastblackcar94\" target=\"_blank\">http://community.webshots.com/user/fastblackcar94</a>

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                • #68
                  <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Birdie2000:
                  Am I missing something here? You're planning on going out the back, which would mean that both pipes need to go side-by-side on the passenger side, then over the axle, then to tips that exit at the bumper? While not extremely difficult, that price doesn't seem outrageous for a custom muffler shop who doesn't know you on a personal level. Other alternative is that each pipe goes over the axle on it's respective side, which is much more difficult, but a little easier than most since you're using such small pipe. IMO $470 for duals out the back, with cats, doesn't sound bad at all. Most places charge like $300 just for a normal dumped dual setup (with bullets). The couple places I've tried for duals out the back with 2.5" pipe wanted at least $500 including mufflers and tips.<hr></blockquote>


                  Thats correct, and its actually more difficult and problematic to go over both sides of the axle due to the driver's having wiring, a lower and an upper panhard rod, and a bunch of other crap in the way [img]smile.gif[/img] So Im going over the passenger only, and they're going to do a very nice and clean job for me.

                  Remember guys, most cheap catbacks are $270 + install + tips + a new cat. You're looking at somewhere around
                  $270 catback
                  $55 catco cat
                  $50 tips
                  $100 install

                  And Im paying roughly the same amount, getting 2 cats, 2 mufflers, 2 stainless tips, and full dual out the back. Why go catback? :D
                  2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
                  Details: www.1lev6.com

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                  • #69
                    over the axle definately adds a lot more $$$$.

                    I just dump before it.
                    Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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                    • #70
                      Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? I know the answer but i thought i would bug ya. [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]
                      2004 Dodge Dakota 3.7 litres of raw power!!<br />Nothing but a 6!<br />Do you know for sure? John 3:18

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                      • #71
                        <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by toast:
                        Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? I know the answer but i thought i would bug ya. [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] <hr></blockquote>

                        Please definetly bug me, Im bugged, Im psyched, and I would post more but I might get banned because of post whoring *ahem*

                        In any case I'd like to add one more thing. I'm going to say it loudly so you all understand.

                        MY 2002 V6 CAMARO HAS THREE O2 SENSORS.
                        THE FIRST TWO O2 SENSORS ARE LOCATED IN THE MANIFOLDS.
                        THE LAST O2 SENSOR IS LOCATED BEHIND THE CAT.
                        THERE WILL BE NO ISSUE WITH O2s USING MY SETUP, THE ONE BEHIND THE CAT IS SIMPLY LOOKING FOR A GOOD CAT/BAD CAT SIGNAL, AND THE FRONT ONES WHICH CONTROL MY MIXTURE WILL BE UNAFFECTED BY MY EXHAUST MOD.

                        Thank you. :D
                        2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
                        Details: www.1lev6.com

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                        • #72
                          I figured you were taking both pipes over the passenger side, like you said it's very difficult to do one on each side. I thought that maybe since you were only using 2.25" piping you'd have barely enough clearance, but I guess not. [img]smile.gif[/img] It can be done with your size pipe and with some heat shielding, etc., but not worth it for what you want/need. I know all about the obstructions of the driver's side. I almost went 3" mandrel duals over the axle and just removed the upper panhard bar (has been done many times), but I've got a somewhat large fuel pump sitting on the rear passenger's footwell getting in my way. :D [img]graemlins/dunce.gif[/img]

                          [ September 24, 2003: Message edited by: Birdie2000 ]</p>
                          <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/byoonull\" target=\"_blank\">My Old Car - 2000 Silver V6 Bird</a><br /><br />The replacement-<br />94 Firebird Formula - 383, TH400, and a big blower<br /> <a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/fastblackcar94\" target=\"_blank\">http://community.webshots.com/user/fastblackcar94</a>

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                          • #73
                            Quick question Dom, is there any type of crossover between the 2 pipes? Like an H or X pipe. Just to let you know i was ponding the exact same thing as far as the dual exhaust design that you came up with. I am glad to see somebody is doing it. Can't wait to hear it. ;)
                            2004 Dodge Dakota 3.7 litres of raw power!!<br />Nothing but a 6!<br />Do you know for sure? John 3:18

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                            • #74
                              <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by toast:
                              Quick question Dom, is there any type of crossover between the 2 pipes? Like an H or X pipe. <hr></blockquote>

                              Did you read the posts? They talked about that very thing near the top of this page. ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]
                              Matt
                              1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
                              Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.

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                              • #75
                                <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by 98Camaro3.8:


                                Did you read the posts? They talked about that very thing near the top of this page. ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]
                                <hr></blockquote>

                                Yea just saw that, DUH!
                                ;)
                                2004 Dodge Dakota 3.7 litres of raw power!!<br />Nothing but a 6!<br />Do you know for sure? John 3:18

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