Okay, so after reading what all you guys have said and a little side research of my own I know the Borla will fit my 3.8 Firebird. However, where can I get a Borla exhaust system for my car for a good price? I was on the Borla site, I think they wanted like $950. Is that really the best I can do? My other question is how much better sounding are the Borla's vs say a less pricy Flowmaster system. I hear a lot of people brag about their 40 series and 80 series. I would like the sound, but I want it at the best price as well...
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Go to LS1.com, LS1tech.com, CamaroSS.com or here on the for sale section. You can't beat it!! I got mine for $400 shipped to my door and it was in good shape. I can't promise that you will find that same price but sometimes people don't care and just want to get rid of it so thats why I got a killer deal. When I went to a dyno I heard tons of V6 with various types of ewxhaust (from Spintech, Borla, B&B, flowmaster, ect.,ect.) I am glad with what I have. The Borla and the B&B sound the bect in my opinion. I can speak from experience because I have been through so many exhuast systems and this is the one, atleast for me. I have also heard a Corsa (Scott Black's system) and It sounds pretty good. I recommend those three. I have been through flows, cutouts, Borla with variable plate sizes, Cataco's, and now headers and I really like my set up I have. I didn't like the flowmaster system a whole lot. It just didn't make music to my ears if you know whatI mean. Start slow, but to get the best possible sound I would recommend 3" catco, headers, and somesort of 3" exhaust. Period. Hope this helps, happy hunting. [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]<b>Red 1999 Firebird M5</b><br />Whisper Lid,Borla Catback,K&N,Dual Friction Center Force Clutch,Hurst Shifter w/Lou\'s Short Stick,!FRA,Suncoast Ramair hood,160 Thermo,!maf,Chrome ZO6 Wheels, Painted Calipers, CIA Headers, Taylor Wires, NGK Spark Plugs, 3\" Catco, Jet Chip Stage II, BMR STB, LCA, PHR, SFC, Fan Switch, FTRA<br /><b>Old Dyno Numbers: 183 RWHP, 217 RWTRQ</b><br /><a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/redsixer\" target=\"_blank\">http://community.webshots.com/user/redsixer</a>
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Clayton:
... on the Borla site, I think they wanted like $950. Is that really the best I can do?<hr></blockquote>
When I bought mine (nine months ago?) Thunder Racing had the best overall deal, $625, no tax, and free shipping.\'98 A4 Camaro v6->v8 conversion, and STS kit next<br />v6: 13.6 Powerdyne, 13.2 150 shot, 13.8 120 shot, 14.3 85 shot, 15.7 stock<br />v8(na): 12.18@113, 392rwhp<br />Moderator on <a href=\"http://www.mtfba.org\" target=\"_blank\">www.mtfba.org</a> and <a href=\"http://www.frrax.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.frrax.com</a> (Road Race & Autocross)<br /><a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/johnduncan10\" target=\"_blank\">Car pics</a>, <a href=\"http://www.trscca.com\" target=\"_blank\">TN Region SCCA</a>
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i think thunder racing is having a sale on the borla exhaust right now. check the sponsers area section.<b>2000 Firebird </b><br /><i>old setup </i>- Automatic Whisper lid, Borla catback, shift kit w/ V8 servo, 3.42 gears w/ LSD, PI 3000 converter, <br /><br /><i>14.703@90.92, 2.01 60\' </i>(intake and exhaust)<br /><br /><i> new setup </i> swapped over to LS1 413.9rwhp/398.7rwtq<br /><a href=\"http://www.thunderracing.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.thunderracing.com</a>
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Having not heard B&B, or Corsa I can't comment. I do like the flows (as long as you don't rev in a parking lot). As for which series, from sound clips they sound the same to me, but the 80 has dual while 40 has single, and mine is a Delta so it sounds more mellow, little quieter. But Flows do sound hollow in the upper rpms (all of them seem to), Doesn't bother me since its the lower RPM range I like.
I'm not changing mine out anytime soon, but if you decide on the Flows get bigger piping, and the 80 Series are popular.
From what I've heard.
80 series: Louder, dual outlets (looks sweet),
40 Delta series: Mellow(er), single out (but this is a V6 anyway), very little noise on the inside while cruising. It does sound hollow on the inside, but good when outside of the vehicle (though can't comment on the 80 series-no personal experience)
Go ahead with the 80 series (though I like mine [img]graemlins/love.gif[/img] , i seem to be in the minority on this board, oh well), or B&B. Or just chuck the muffler, who says we need one anyway?! [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]
QUestion: isn't B&B a quiet muffler?
[ December 06, 2002: Message edited by: satellite98 ]</p>1998 3.8 Camaro A4, <br />B&B Triflow CatBack,Whisper Lid, <br />1987 s10 Blazer 350 V8 shift kit,
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by satellite98:
(though I like mine [img]graemlins/love.gif[/img] , i seem to be in the minority on this board, <hr></blockquote>
Opps, that was the NON-delta many hated,1998 3.8 Camaro A4, <br />B&B Triflow CatBack,Whisper Lid, <br />1987 s10 Blazer 350 V8 shift kit,
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I emailed you about the exhaust.2001 A4 Pewter 75th Anniversary W68 Firebird<br />1997 Dodge Ram Extended Cab 360 CID<br />1996 Ford Explorer V6<br /><i><b>Any number you can think of, I can think of one higher.</b></i><br /><a href=\"http://www.criesmusic.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.criesmusic.com</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.mp3.com/beneaththestage\" target=\"_blank\">www.mp3.com/beneaththestage</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.thenebula.com/carpics/pics/Silver3800V6Picturescar6.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.thenebula.com/carpics/pics/Silver3800V6Picturescar6.jpg</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.thenebula.com/carpics/pics/Silver3800V6Picturescar4.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.thenebula.com/carpics/pics/Silver3800V6Picturescar4.jpg</a><br />AIM: Guitarchitect201
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Check SUMMIT
That's where I got mine.<b>94 Firebird, 3.4 V6, Red, M5</b><br /> SLP CAI, Accel 8mm Superstock Wires, Bosch Platinum +4 Plugs, Borla Exhaust, BMR Strut Tower Brace, 180* Thermostat, B&M Ripper Shifter<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/94bird\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/94bird</a>
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i have a borla exhaust 3" catback sitting in the garage, it was on my ride for a month, and the stock y-pipe was rattling so i took it in and they said it was teh borla, i got a new exhaust system and it still rattled, finally we found out it was the stock y-pipe
so i'm left with a borla cat back, i lost the plates, they're 20 bucks to get new ones. but other than that, it's in mint condition
i dont care, i'll sell it cheap i need to get rid of the thing, my mom keeps threatening to throw it away if i dont sell it
email me at g00p69@aol.com if you want it
peace\'02 firebird 5spd manual (pewter)<br />mods: whisper lid, spintech muffer with 3\" piping, strut tower brace, \"free ram air\", k&n filter, SLP CAI - next mods: jetchip stage II, lowering springs
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Flowmasters are for sound, borla is better for flow. I have owned them both.1997 Red GTP Coupe<br />Borla,3\" DP,!ubend,Thrasher CAI,Magnuson(3.4\"),1.9 roller rockers,Tran. Cooler,GPS PCM,Boost+Trans. Temp gauges(in Lotek),comp harness,Blazertech 3200\'s,BBS 18\'s+Pilots,RAT rear sway bar,Powerslots+Pf Pads(all corners),KYB\'s,STB\'s,Poly bushings(mid+end),Optima Battery(yellow), Kenwood Deck+Boston Interior Speakers(Pro)+RF Sub(550 watts), GTS covers,rear red reflective Pontiac sticker(My fav.)
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borla with closed plate gives a good performance gain, very noticable.\'02 firebird 5spd manual (pewter)<br />mods: whisper lid, spintech muffer with 3\" piping, strut tower brace, \"free ram air\", k&n filter, SLP CAI - next mods: jetchip stage II, lowering springs
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MoreThanAV6 what kind of bend do you have instead of a u?1999 Firebird Black<br />A4 3.08 gears<br />Mods: Carbon Fiber Whisper Lid, Raised Air Box, K&N Air Filter, Direct Hits Ignition, Flowmaster American Thunder 3\", 160 Degree Hypertech Thermostat, SLP Fan Switch, 3\" High Flow Cat<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=273903\" target=\"_blank\">My car on Cardomain</a>
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