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Ok i got my hooker exhaust catback on and my catco converter on today... i feel a little improvemnt but not what i was hoping for totally... and i got my cai... do i need to let it break in first before i can feel a good improvment or am i getting exactly what i got now... i raced a 2002 gt tonight and lost by half a car length and im pretty mad about it.. i was hoping to beat that girl pretty good but i didn't.. so am i just over reacting or do i just need to calm down and wait and let it break in first, and man does it sound good... i love it.. sound's like a v8 at idle and at around 3000 but after that it get's a little ricey.. but i don't really car as long as it flow's good and i get up and get moving..
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Old 2003 gt, Pullies, k&n air filter, tb and spacer, off road xpipe, catback exhaust accufab plenum, volant cai. quadrant clutch, cable, firewall adjuster, predator programmer and 180 thermo with 255/40/17 nittos on the back -
So yes i have a 3in high flow catco converter and a 3in hooker catback system i was wondering when i get my header's will i feel even more of a good gain or not really? and yes i am getting them next becuase i am going to be putting a supercharger on my car in due time... but right now not any time soon.. so all the help i can get i will be very thankfulOld 2003 gt, Pullies, k&n air filter, tb and spacer, off road xpipe, catback exhaust accufab plenum, volant cai. quadrant clutch, cable, firewall adjuster, predator programmer and 180 thermo with 255/40/17 nittos on the back -
You want "feel" the gains like you want until you get better gears, or a cam or nitrous or a blower or something like that. All this bolt on stuff shows up in the quarter mile, not down low. Your car will probably feel worse than it does now if you get headers and no engine work or supercharger to take advantage of it. Nitrous would take advantage of headers too, but when you're not spraying... [img]graemlins/thumbsdown.gif[/img] Slug.
We need a snail graemlin. :D
Now, I wanna vent! To date, I've spent a total of 2907.47 on performance mods, including labor with only one "do over", the exhaust. A guy with a stock v6 bird and a blower will eat my lunch. (Hint, hint.)
Nitrous guys will eat my lunch too...but that's nitrous.
Okay, I'm done now.
[ August 27, 2002: Message edited by: AMinor65 ]</p><b>1998 Firebird 3800 Series II, A4</b><br />Direct-Flo Lid,K&N Filter,DEE TB Spacer,TPS-TEC,ZZP Mini-AFC,Raised and Cutout Airbox 7mm,BMR STB & Boxed LCAs,KYB AGX Shocks,Drilled/Slotted Rotors,180* Thermo,2.5\" Catco Cat,Dynomax 2.75\" custom catback,Kumho Ecstas/245,Jet Stage 2,3.42,Edge Racing 2870 Stall,B&M Tranny Cooler,B&M Deep Tranny Pan,LSD,AAM Girdle,1LE DS,NX Wet Kit,MSD DIS-4,MSD Blaster Coil Packs,Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires,NGK TR6\'S gapped .045,ZZP UD WP Pulley,SLP Fan Switch,TT II\'s<br />N/A: 15.6342 @ 88.44 (On stock converter. Strugglin\' to beat it.)<br />Nitrous 50 Shot: 14.7463 @ 93.49Comment
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Seems like you faired pretty well against the GT, so don't worry about it. You will notice differences later on in the Intake and Exhaust.<a href=\"http://www.saintsworth.com/z06\" target=\"_blank\">\'02 Corvette Z06</a>Comment
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pull your pcm ign fuse and one other i think it's batt fuse. i not to sure on that last one. anyways basicly it resets your computer. then drive for a while. this will speed up the learn process. yes headers will help the topend. then get some gear.96 wht. firebird 5sd. rk sport headers,3in.catco, spintech catback,CAI,FRA,3.42/lsd 180*t-stat, centerforce dual friction clutch, ls1 driveshaft, polyurethane trans. mount.<br />01 blk. z28 m6, borla exht, lid, k<br />+n, sfc., chrome 18in. y2k c5 wheels.Comment
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Fusion:
Seems like you faired pretty well against the GT,...<hr></blockquote>
He did, didn't he. I totally missed that. [img]redface.gif[/img]<b>1998 Firebird 3800 Series II, A4</b><br />Direct-Flo Lid,K&N Filter,DEE TB Spacer,TPS-TEC,ZZP Mini-AFC,Raised and Cutout Airbox 7mm,BMR STB & Boxed LCAs,KYB AGX Shocks,Drilled/Slotted Rotors,180* Thermo,2.5\" Catco Cat,Dynomax 2.75\" custom catback,Kumho Ecstas/245,Jet Stage 2,3.42,Edge Racing 2870 Stall,B&M Tranny Cooler,B&M Deep Tranny Pan,LSD,AAM Girdle,1LE DS,NX Wet Kit,MSD DIS-4,MSD Blaster Coil Packs,Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires,NGK TR6\'S gapped .045,ZZP UD WP Pulley,SLP Fan Switch,TT II\'s<br />N/A: 15.6342 @ 88.44 (On stock converter. Strugglin\' to beat it.)<br />Nitrous 50 Shot: 14.7463 @ 93.49Comment
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by AMinor65:
You want "feel" the gains like you want until you get better gears, or a cam or nitrous or a blower or something like that. All this bolt on stuff shows up in the quarter mile, not down low. Your car will probably feel worse than it does now if you get headers and no engine work or supercharger to take advantage of it. Nitrous would take advantage of headers too, but when you're not spraying... [img]graemlins/thumbsdown.gif[/img] Slug.
We need a snail graemlin. :D
Now, I wanna vent! To date, I've spent a total of 2907.47 on performance mods, including labor with only one "do over", the exhaust. A guy with a stock v6 bird and a blower will eat my lunch. (Hint, hint.)
Nitrous guys will eat my lunch too...but that's nitrous.
Okay, I'm done now.
[ August 27, 2002: Message edited by: AMinor65 ]<hr></blockquote>
This is very true because I just got Headers , Exhaust , and CAI , installed and my car doesnt feel any faster , it only feel faster on top end and my low end feels alot slow now. The guy who installed my mods said that I should get gears if I wanna feel the power . He said something about the compression of the car .2002 Grand Prix GTP- FWI Intake , flowmaster 40\'s ,3.4 pulley , and Intense racing PCM.<br />94 3.4L camaro -Lots of mods!Comment
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A 1/2 car length behind a 02 GT is VERY impressive. You should be happy, not mad.<b>99 Camaro Z28 A4</b><br />R.I.P. 00 Firebird 3.8<br />14.89 @ 90, 2.03 60\'Comment
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Thank's for the help guy's but if you can give me a little more help now.... i know the answer to this one from somebody helping me lastnight and he know's who he is... now i want to see what everyone think's.. would aluminum driveshaft 3.42gears and lsd help me alot on my lowend to highend and would i feel anything noticable?Old 2003 gt, Pullies, k&n air filter, tb and spacer, off road xpipe, catback exhaust accufab plenum, volant cai. quadrant clutch, cable, firewall adjuster, predator programmer and 180 thermo with 255/40/17 nittos on the backComment
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by V6FirebirdPride:
Thank's for the help guy's but if you can give me a little more help now.... i know the answer to this one from somebody helping me lastnight and he know's who he is... now i want to see what everyone think's.. would aluminum driveshaft 3.42gears and lsd help me alot on my lowend to highend and would i feel anything noticable?<hr></blockquote>
I thought you had 3.42s!! Hell yeah you'll feel it! Go for the 3.42 man!<b>99 Camaro Z28 A4</b><br />R.I.P. 00 Firebird 3.8<br />14.89 @ 90, 2.03 60\'Comment
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With an M5 going to 3.42's isn't much of a gain, but the LSD will allow you to launch at higher rpm's. For better gains with the M5 go 3.73's and LSD.
Oh and definately reset the PCM, do that after any performance mod, it speeds things up greatly.
[ August 27, 2002: Message edited by: Jack ]</p>97 Silver Bird<br />3.8 M5 Bone Stock Engine<br />15.528 @ 88.96 bone stock<br /><a href=\"http://www.fbodyenhancements.com/\" target=\"_blank\">www.fbodyenhancements.com/</a>Comment
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I never reset my computer, BUT I installed the majority of my Mods 1,000s of miles ago. Would resetting it now be pointless? Just a thought. BTW, I've always felt SLIGHT differences after each mod so maybe I have a quick learning computer?Comment
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Too bad you don't have an auto, then you could get a converter and really feel the difference. Next best thing is gears and a good hard biting clutch. If you seriously want to feel the difference, get 4.10s. The JET SCU will fix your speedo problems. I'll get flamed for telling you to have 4.10s but they work.
Example: A board member i know of (keeping his name secret) has a stock auto 96. His car has 4.10s (in an auto) and a dynomax 2.5" catback. His speedo is not recalibrated either. He ran a 15.0 in 85* weather on stock tires after having to coast to the line because he bounced off of the 90mph speed limiter due to the speedo being off. Once that is fixed he will be at least .1 faster. So you can get 4.10s.
ScottComment
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Scott Black:
Too bad you don't have an auto, then you could get a converter and really feel the difference. Next best thing is gears and a good hard biting clutch. If you seriously want to feel the difference, get 4.10s. The JET SCU will fix your speedo problems. I'll get flamed for telling you to have 4.10s but they work.
Example: A board member i know of (keeping his name secret) has a stock auto 96. His car has 4.10s (in an auto) and a dynomax 2.5" catback. His speedo is not recalibrated either. He ran a 15.0 in 85* weather on stock tires after having to coast to the line because he bounced off of the 90mph speed limiter due to the speedo being off. Once that is fixed he will be at least .1 faster. So you can get 4.10s.
Scott<hr></blockquote>
The Jet SCU wont work he has a 5spd a SLP speedo adjuster probably would work though.2002 M5 Bright Metallic Silver <br />*Fully loaded and modded<br /><br />2005 GSXR 750<br />*Micron Serpent Race Exhaust *K&N Filter *Power Commander *Trying to hit 200 MPH!<br /><br />1970 SS 454 Chevelle Cortez Silver<br />*It can pass anything but a gas stationComment
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