Intake Manifold Swap

[Dan M]

Someone bought an intake like that and showed it off in the lounge a while back. I don't remember who it was or where he got it anymore, but you could try a search for "intake" or something.

If I remember later, I'll look.

[navyblue2000]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Big Bad James:
I'm curious why the 3800 Series II FWD cars advertise 205 HP and ours advertise 200 HP. Maybe it has something to do with the intake.

And can the FWD intake be turned around to accomodate the type of applications I want to do?<hr></blockquote>

that's only on the bonneville and the park avenue.
on all other 3.8's they're 200hp.

if you were to cut a cross section of the intakes, you would see that ours flow BETTER than the fwd intakes, because of the shape of the ports. if you separate the upper from the lower you will realize this.

[Big Bad James]

You're talking Series II, my man. I'm talking about the Series I 3800 intake manifold VS the RWD Series II 3800 intake manifold.

If I could find one on eBay, I'd cut the talk, and go for it, but all I see are Series II FWD intakes manifolds. I want Series I.

Observe the following image:
http://members.shaw.ca/j.parkes/intakes.jpg

Note the protrusions on the Series II intake that are absent from the Series I intake. If anyone comes across a Series I intake manifold, please let me know.

[ October 01, 2003: Message edited by: Big Bad James ]</p>

[Ex-5.0]

All 1995 NA 3800 are Series II.

Series I was rated 170HP, Series II 200HP everywhere except Bonneville, 88/98 and LeSabre/Park Avenue which were (are) 205HP.

Intakes are different because deck height is lower on Series II so heads are closer together.

I do not think any Series I intakes will fit Series II. Besides, exterior looks don't necessarily translate into performance.

[Loochy88]

looks very "LS1-ey"

would it be good for performance? who knows. do a before and after dyno. we would all love to know, im sure

[navyblue2000]

search ebay for '3.8 heads'
there's a heads/intake package for a series 1. the only thing i could find that had a series 1 manifold.

but hey, if it fails, send me your series 2 manifolds, i'll port and polish them [img]smile.gif[/img] i got pics on my work!!

[98v6]

hey navyblue, how well does the p&p thing work/how long does it take/how much do you charge

[toast]

Series 1 intake will not work because the series 1 engine has different heads on it. THe intake ports on the series 1 are differentt than on the series 2.

[Big Bad James]

Crap! And the dream is over. Laf.

Oh well, back to the drawing board.

[Ted]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Just go out and buy an LS1, eh? Hmm, while I'm at it, I should probably take my Aston Martin for an engine overhaul.
I'm not made of money here, and a Series 1 intake would be something unique and different on an F-Body. Also quite inexpensive if I look around. I'll have the intake ported if it doesn't flow enough at first, but I want it because it's different.<hr></blockquote>

I didn't know LS1s cost as much as an Aston Martin, last time I checked I seen a few go for around 10k, some even less. Since we're talking about performance now, I see no real reason why you would gain so much out of a composite manifold. Which is why I came to the conslusion that you were doing it just for looks. Obviously you must be made of money if you are blowing it on something that isn't going to do anything for you? But yea, hope the intake works wonders for ya.

[ October 02, 2003: Message edited by: Ted ]</p>

[Big Bad James]

My point was that I don't have the money to spend on a whole new engine, if I did, I would have by now. I wanted the manifold for the look, and if you read some of the other posts, it is lighter, flows better and absorbs less heat.

However, it won't fit, as someone already said, so there's no use at this point.

[Blazzin Joe]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by toast:
Series 1 intake will not work because the series 1 engine has different heads on it. THe intake ports on the series 1 are differentt than on the series 2.<hr></blockquote>

It also appears that everyone left out the fact that our termostat is located in intake assembly, this is something that would not be found in the correct place on the series I or II FWD intakes.. just another thought to add to all the mix [img]smile.gif[/img]

[malice10985]

Those intake setups are really cheap on Ebay. If someone were to get bored on a saturday, they could try it and see if it actually will fit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=43989

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=43989

[Big Bad James]

No Malice, I said Series ONE, not Series Two.

[lord_gufi]

for one, No one has ever even tryed and told the tale. Two if the manfold was to infact flow better this would be a NICE upgrade With looks. you know kinda like puling your intake and porting it... then cleaning it.. Pretty much same thing only this would look much nicer than a stock manifold IMO.

But what Do I know I drive an import.