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    Ok i want this car to sound mean as hell. I don't want to wake the dead but i'd like to interupt their sleep :D I'm thinking of doing headers, full 3" piping, electronic cutout, high flow catco cat, and a Z28 performance muffler. Ok, my dad's getting married to a girl who's dad owns an exhaust shop and i'm sure he'll give me a deal. So where should i get a cutout from and a highflow cat. About how much is a cutout. the rest i can find on my own. Thanks guys for the help. also does anybody have sound clips of their 3.8 with a cutout and some of the things i have in mine. The video of sound clip would be most appreciated. [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
    2000 Grand Prix GTP- Bronzemist Metallic: K&N Fenderwell Intake,3.4\" Thrasher Pulley, v1.0 DHP PCM, 3\" Mandrel Bent DP,Ubend Delete,Dynomax SuperTurbos, 180* Thermostat.<br />Soon to come: ZZP SSIntercooler or N20 or both:)

  • #2
    well, the z28 muffler wont be loud, it will be qiute with a slight rumble.
    2000 3.8 A4 Pewter Camaro

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    • #3
      Nobody else has anything??? i don't know what to say
      2000 Grand Prix GTP- Bronzemist Metallic: K&N Fenderwell Intake,3.4\" Thrasher Pulley, v1.0 DHP PCM, 3\" Mandrel Bent DP,Ubend Delete,Dynomax SuperTurbos, 180* Thermostat.<br />Soon to come: ZZP SSIntercooler or N20 or both:)

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      • #4
        Magnaflow with high flow cat.
        everyone on the board thinks it's quiet, but my nabors would beg to differ .I love mine
        Black 2000 Y87 Camaro with T-tops ,SLP bowtie grill, Suncoast Creations Ram air hood and air box,Hypertech pp3,magnaflow cat back,and hi flow cat. <a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/sorn09\" target=\"_blank\">http://members.cardomain.com/sorn09</a>

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        • #5
          Ok, here's the basics for exhaust to help you pick::

          Headers -&gt; Less rasp, a little more power, cleaner engine bay, usually a general overall improvement

          Highflow Cat -&gt; Louder exhaust overall, doesn't often change tone just more of the volume, may change the amount of rasp, can rattle when it gets old

          Piping -&gt; Generally the larger the piping the better up to 3" for sound quality, the 3" will move the powerband higher meaning a little less seat of the pants torque and more topend for sure.

          Muffler -&gt; Power wise most make no difference really, most are an improvement over stock but just changing the muffler won't give you much. You need to ask around and listen to the mufflers to hear the sound they'll make, but here are the basics:

          Flowmasters -&gt; v8 idle rumble, nice cruising tone, often raspy topend

          Dynomax -&gt; very quiet idle, little noise when cruising, generally smooth tone throughout but not muscle car sounding or v8 sounding

          Borla -&gt; raspy sounding usually and not too deep,
          sound depends on the plate used

          Hooker -&gt; (my muffler) quieter idle but noticeable, smooth cruising tone, not raspy at all on topend, not too loud, but you know its not
          a v8

          Cutouts/Straightpipes -&gt; very loud, nice rumble at idle, drones when cruising, screeches when flooring it and has a nasty loud tone to it on topend, but when cruising and low rpms, can be very intimidating

          People will probably disagree with some of this, but this is only my opinion. If you want a nice tone and muscle sound, get the headers, highflow cat, 3" piping, and a flowmaster or something else with only a few internal chambers. If its raspy, put a dynomax bullet on the I-pipe to help. Here's the link to a website claiming to have the best v6 exhaust setup using flowmasters with very good soundclips and info:

          http://www.projectvirus.com/ultimateexhaust/
          1997 Pontiac Firebird 3.9L<br /><br /> - TSP Dyno Tuned<br /> - Bored 0.040<br /> - ARP Rod Bolts / Head Studs<br /> - Custom CAI<br /> - Pacesetter Ceramic Headers / !Cat<br /> - 3\" Catback w/SLP Firehawk Muffler<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/649312\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/649312</a>

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          • #6
            Thank you VERY much for the sound clips and stuff CBONEY2003 that helps alot. Now what i want to do is do headers, 3" piping all the way back, Catco High flow and a cutout. Now with the cutout open i know it will be loud. But when i have it shut will it sound just throaty. Also where the heck do i get a electronic cutout from also???
            2000 Grand Prix GTP- Bronzemist Metallic: K&N Fenderwell Intake,3.4\" Thrasher Pulley, v1.0 DHP PCM, 3\" Mandrel Bent DP,Ubend Delete,Dynomax SuperTurbos, 180* Thermostat.<br />Soon to come: ZZP SSIntercooler or N20 or both:)

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            • #7
              magnaflow cat go on ebay and find performance peddler as a seller, he gives the best deal on them. i used the 94009 and paid like $45 shipped.

              Cutout: i can probably sell u my flowtech one for $30 shipped, it is still brand new, with bolts and gaskets.

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              • #8
                Danny that might be a possibility with the cutout i'll get back to you ASAP
                2000 Grand Prix GTP- Bronzemist Metallic: K&N Fenderwell Intake,3.4\" Thrasher Pulley, v1.0 DHP PCM, 3\" Mandrel Bent DP,Ubend Delete,Dynomax SuperTurbos, 180* Thermostat.<br />Soon to come: ZZP SSIntercooler or N20 or both:)

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                • #9
                  ttt
                  2000 Grand Prix GTP- Bronzemist Metallic: K&N Fenderwell Intake,3.4\" Thrasher Pulley, v1.0 DHP PCM, 3\" Mandrel Bent DP,Ubend Delete,Dynomax SuperTurbos, 180* Thermostat.<br />Soon to come: ZZP SSIntercooler or N20 or both:)

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                  • #10
                    Electronic cutout's are pretty expensive, like $185ish. All they are really is a normal cutout with a flange on the end and a motorized flap that bolts to the flange to open and close by switch. Here's a few websites for the exhaust parts:

                    www.ftpp.net
                    www.texas-speed.com
                    www.thunderracing.com
                    www.tbyrnemotorsports.com
                    www.lmperformance.com

                    Some direct links to parts:

                    Pacesetter Ceramic Coated Headers:
                    http://www.texas-speed.com/item_deta...?ProductID=628

                    Magnaflow 3" In/Out High Flow Catalytic Converter:
                    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33629

                    Flowmaster 3" Catback Exhaust System:
                    http://store.summitracing.com/partde...LO-17133&N=120 303433

                    QTP 3" Electric Cutout Package:
                    http://www.quicktimeperformance.com/...uct_detail&p=3

                    Hope this helps, and once you find what you want, you should support the site sponsers over other companies for obvious reasons, I only provided these links for reference to the right parts for ya!
                    1997 Pontiac Firebird 3.9L<br /><br /> - TSP Dyno Tuned<br /> - Bored 0.040<br /> - ARP Rod Bolts / Head Studs<br /> - Custom CAI<br /> - Pacesetter Ceramic Headers / !Cat<br /> - 3\" Catback w/SLP Firehawk Muffler<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/649312\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/649312</a>

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                    • #11
                      Thanks alot. i would like an electronic one just because it's easier to do since i dropped my car 1.5" Now i can barely get my head under the car.
                      2000 Grand Prix GTP- Bronzemist Metallic: K&N Fenderwell Intake,3.4\" Thrasher Pulley, v1.0 DHP PCM, 3\" Mandrel Bent DP,Ubend Delete,Dynomax SuperTurbos, 180* Thermostat.<br />Soon to come: ZZP SSIntercooler or N20 or both:)

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                      • #12
                        http://mccordcg.com/Merchant2/mercha...egory_Code=MEC

                        There is a electronic plate that will fit over any 3" cutout that you can get for about $30-40. It's only $110 too.
                        <a href=\"http://www.onid.orst.edu/~waltejam/\" target=\"_blank\">98 Bright Red Camaro</a><br />Too many mods to list....check my website

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