Pacesetters for 00 and 99 the same?

[HeadyFirebird'00]

All i can find is pacesetters for 94-99 not '00. Is it the same to get these. My tax check is coming soon and I want some pacesetters for my 00 bird. Thanks in advance

[GreenDragon]

Pretty sure that the 3.8 pacesetter Headers are the same for 98-02.

[OneQuickV6]

They are the same....difference is Pacesetter designed them for the 95-99's, and the 00+'s have a slightly different EGR provision...be very careful when approaching that part of the install.

[HeadyFirebird'00]

Hey thanks matt.
does the fact of the oval manifolds matter at all?
do you have the pacestters on your f-bod? Leaks so far? Im a little sketched about the gasket problems

[OneQuickV6]

I've got them. I had no problems with the paper gaskets that Pacesetter sent with the headers. I didn't soak them or any of that BS, just put them on and torque them properly andf they seal.

Better yet, use the stockers that are multi-layer steel!

I am now usng Felpro now, and zero leaks there.

I have had issues with the ball-joint flanges leaking after a while...but then I tighten them up and am good to go.

[HeadyFirebird'00]

Originally posted by OneQuickV6:
I've got them. I had no problems with the paper gaskets that Pacesetter sent with the headers. I didn't soak them or any of that BS, just put them on and torque them properly andf they seal.

Better yet, use the stockers that are multi-layer steel!

I am now usng Felpro now, and zero leaks there.

I have had issues with the ball-joint flanges leaking after a while...but then I tighten them up and am good to go.

Ball-joint flanges? what are those all about. You have to check em and tighten them every so often?

[OneQuickV6]

Instead of the header and y-pipe slipping over each other like on the LS1 LT's...these have a ball-joint flange. It's flared to fit like a puzzle on each end, and you have a plate with 2 bolts through it. These bolts tighten down to pull the two sides together.

The bolts from PAcesetter are not a good length for most cars and will leak, period if used. I got bolts with more thread so I could tighten them farther, and no leaks now.

[HeadyFirebird'00]

So the are shorty headers i take it. Where and how much did u pick your up for? if i may ask you.

[V8 Killer]

Why put headers on a 2000? They already came with tubular manifolds...

[OneQuickV6]

Yes, shorties they are. I got them from Texas Speed, of course!

And you put them on a 2000+ car because tubular manifolds still suck, period, no debating that. Just because they're betetr than the old manifolds, doesn't mean they don't suck.