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  • Pacesetter or RKSport?

    I have a slight dilemma...I was planning on getting the RKSport ceramic headers, but then i saw the Pacesetters which are much cheaper. I know the old saying "You get what you pay for", but the RKSport headers leak. how does their almost $500 price tag fit with that saying? the Pacesetters are less than half that price. Anyone have any suggestions?
    \'98 Camaro - SOLD<br />Best E/T: 15.489 @ 86.48 MPH<br />60\': 2.131<br /><a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/skorpion317\" target=\"_blank\">members.cardomain.com/skorpion317 </a><br />1998 Saturn SL2<br />Official <a href=\"http://www.njdisturbance.com\" target=\"_blank\">NJ Disturbance</a> bracket racer

  • #2
    I love my pacesetters....haven't had a single problem except that I needed to add washers to the y-pipe to header flange bolts because they were too long. I was one of the first to have them and they are still doing great.
    <a href=\"http://www.onid.orst.edu/~waltejam/\" target=\"_blank\">98 Bright Red Camaro</a><br />Too many mods to list....check my website

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    • #3
      Originally posted by speedy-v6-camaro:
      I love my pacesetters....haven't had a single problem except that I needed to add washers to the y-pipe to header flange bolts because they were too long. I was one of the first to have them and they are still doing great.
      did they give you a noticeable power gain? how do they sound?
      \'98 Camaro - SOLD<br />Best E/T: 15.489 @ 86.48 MPH<br />60\': 2.131<br /><a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/skorpion317\" target=\"_blank\">members.cardomain.com/skorpion317 </a><br />1998 Saturn SL2<br />Official <a href=\"http://www.njdisturbance.com\" target=\"_blank\">NJ Disturbance</a> bracket racer

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      • #4
        My experence with Pacesetter headers:

        - Y-Pipe did not fit, spent $120 getting it remade to fit. (this is supposedly fixed now?)

        - Headers still rub the steering linkage

        - Headers leaked where they met the Y-Pipe... had to buy Grade 8 bolts and washers because the bolts supplied would not allow room to seal correctly.

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        • #5
          Just got the Pacesetters on this week, no problems so far, no leaks and so on. All my fitment problems are on the 01 SLP SS takeoff I got. I guess the LS1 dosen't quite match up to the mighty 3800II [img]graemlins/bowdown.gif[/img]

          I've heard really bad things about the flanges on th RK's and I like the Pacesetter construction.

          Hope this helps. Any questions, PM me.
          Chris<br />98 Firebird T-Top<br />3.8L<br />Whisper Lid W/ K&N<br />Pacesetter Headers, Ceramic<br />Catco 3\" in/out cat<br />TSP Rumbler Catback<br />TransGo Shift Kit<br />JET Corvette Servo<br />All KYB AGX Shocks/Struts<br />3.42 Gears, POSI Traction

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          • #6
            they sound great and you will only notice a differenace at the top end. the motor won't struggle to he the speed limiter as bad.

            mostly i notice the motor stayed cooler
            www.turbov6camaro.com
            1997 3800 Series II Camaro
            4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
            7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
            11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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            • #7
              do they leak like the RK's do, or do they have a tight fit?
              \'98 Camaro - SOLD<br />Best E/T: 15.489 @ 86.48 MPH<br />60\': 2.131<br /><a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/skorpion317\" target=\"_blank\">members.cardomain.com/skorpion317 </a><br />1998 Saturn SL2<br />Official <a href=\"http://www.njdisturbance.com\" target=\"_blank\">NJ Disturbance</a> bracket racer

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              • #8
                I have had the Pacesetter Headers for a few months. No leaks, the install was a snap, and it runs and sounds great! I highly recommend them!
                2001 Firebird 3.8L V6 M5,<br />It once had....<br />NX Nitrous Wet Kit, ZZP X-P Hot Cam, <br />3.42 LSD, Pacesetter Headers, <br />36# Injectors, HP Tuners<br />322 RWHP, 379 RWTQ<br />13.596 @ 102.56 w/100 shot

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                • #9
                  They don't leak....they have ball and joint flanges and if the bolts are too long you can just use washers. Sometimes they rub on the steering linkage but that can be easily fixed if you aren't all pissed off about everything like Hawgs is. I like the sound better now and notice that it accelerates a lot better in the upper RPMs.
                  <a href=\"http://www.onid.orst.edu/~waltejam/\" target=\"_blank\">98 Bright Red Camaro</a><br />Too many mods to list....check my website

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by speedy-v6-camaro:
                    They don't leak....they have ball and joint flanges and if the bolts are too long you can just use washers. Sometimes they rub on the steering linkage but that can be easily fixed if you aren't all pissed off about everything like Hawgs is. I like the sound better now and notice that it accelerates a lot better in the upper RPMs.
                    sounds good to me....got any clips?
                    \'98 Camaro - SOLD<br />Best E/T: 15.489 @ 86.48 MPH<br />60\': 2.131<br /><a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/skorpion317\" target=\"_blank\">members.cardomain.com/skorpion317 </a><br />1998 Saturn SL2<br />Official <a href=\"http://www.njdisturbance.com\" target=\"_blank\">NJ Disturbance</a> bracket racer

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by skorpion317:
                      </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by speedy-v6-camaro:
                      They don't leak....they have ball and joint flanges and if the bolts are too long you can just use washers. Sometimes they rub on the steering linkage but that can be easily fixed if you aren't all pissed off about everything like Hawgs is. I like the sound better now and notice that it accelerates a lot better in the upper RPMs.
                      sounds good to me....got any clips? </font>[/QUOTE]http://viper03af.50megs.com/custom4.html
                      cam one dont work, but the dyno one does, it better on the dyno you get to hear it under load.
                      www.turbov6camaro.com
                      1997 3800 Series II Camaro
                      4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
                      7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
                      11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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                      • #12
                        I just have leak in my EGR.. thats only problem.. dont know how to fix it but heres sound clip.

                        Yea heres sound clip of my exhaust: Pacesetter headers ceramic coated, y-pipe, 3"in/out hi-flow cat, 2.75" flowmaster catback.

                        http://www.geocities.com/timmackman1...haustClips.mpg

                        copy and paste into URL.. but first couple seconds is from outside of the car, then the rest is inside.. first acceleration is around 3k-4k rmp, then 2nd acceleration is punching it from 30mph. would put it as video but would be too big to host on my site
                        99\' W68 Firebird<br />SLP Ram air kit,Whisper Air Lid, k&n, 8mm Taylor Wires, Bridgestone Potenzas RE950, BMR Red LCAs, Pacesetter Headers and 3\"in catalytic converter with 2.75\" Flowmaster Cat-back<br /><br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/501008</a>

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 99W68Firebird:
                          I just have leak in my EGR.. thats only problem..
                          Use some copper sealant to seal it up. I got mine at the auto parts store.
                          <a href=\"http://www.onid.orst.edu/~waltejam/\" target=\"_blank\">98 Bright Red Camaro</a><br />Too many mods to list....check my website

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                          • #14
                            I just junked the EGR and used a small freeze plug in the header port :D Finished the exhaust install after having pacesetters on for a week or so and fixing some other problems on the car, but overall pleased with the quality. As everyone says, I went and bought 3" bolts rather than the 3 1/2 that come with the kit, and I was surprised that no washers came with the other header bolts. Other than that and the mighty steering linkage rub, no problems with the pacesetters. Seriously thought, I think these are all problems that pacesetter should fix by now.
                            \'98 Camaro V6<br />Appearance... pleasing<br />Performance... just a little extra air.

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                            • #15
                              i love my pacesetters but you might run it some small problems but thats how everything is. no biggy
                              2000 3.8 A4 Pewter Camaro

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