Will i get a ses light if i add a high flow cat?

[Kham]

If i add a high flow cat. Will i get a ses light? Probley going to add a catco! Its for a 2001 firebird!

[Justin Kirkham]

I did.

-Justin

[ianwells100]

i dont and have a carsound cat... *knock on wood*

i've heard more ppl with catco get them than ppl with carsound... so out of them 2, i'd say go with the carsound.. i went on this advice, got it from ebay for $50 shipped and am very happy

good luck
ian

[hockeyman]

I have had a carsound cat installed since july of this year, and haven't had an ses yet.

-Marc

[zlexiss]

I have SES with the Carsound

[Kham]

Yea thats what i figure. If its newer say 2000 and up you will get a ses light. So does any body have a high flow cat on a 2000 and up with no ses light? If so what one is it? Thanks!

[hockeyman]

Normally, it's the post-cat O2 senser that goes squirrely after you put on a high flow converter. You'll need an O2 simulator to get rid of the ses light.

-Marc

[Kham]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by hockeyman:
Normally, it's the post-cat O2 senser that goes squirrely after you put on a high flow converter. You'll need an O2 simulator to get rid of the ses light.

-Marc<hr></blockquote>

But will a o2 sim work for a 2001 firebird? Ive heard they sometimes work but most of the time they dont? See my problem is i still have the gm warrnty and then my other warrnty kicks in. Since i bought it used. Iam afiad they will void them if i get a ses light! Can they do That?

[SkAchilles]

Catco on my 96 and it never threw a code.

[Riley]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Kham:


But will a o2 sim work for a 2001 firebird? Ive heard they sometimes work but most of the time they dont? See my problem is i still have the gm warrnty and then my other warrnty kicks in. Since i bought it used. Iam afiad they will void them if i get a ses light! Can they do That?<hr></blockquote>

They will 99.9% of the time work. If you still have the SES light after resetting then it is not your O2 readings, its another trouble code. If you take your car into the dealership w/out a cat it will void it whether it have an O2 sim or not....SES light or not.

[Kham]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Riley:


They will 99.9% of the time work. If you still have the SES light after resetting then it is not your O2 readings, its another trouble code. If you take your car into the dealership w/out a cat it will void it whether it have an O2 sim or not....SES light or not.<hr></blockquote>

So can they void the warrnty if i put a high flow cat on?

[99redcamaro]

mine is 99, i have a carsound cat and the ses light is on. i'm getting Code P0420: Generic Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 1). it was fine until i got my cam installed. 120 miles after that the light came on

[Jason McCallister]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Kham:
So can they void the warrnty if i put a high flow cat on?<hr></blockquote>

Only on the exhaust system...

Federal law prohibits a dealer from voiding your warranty just because you are using aftermarket speed equipment, with only two exceptions: the warranty can be voided if the aftermarket part causes damage, or adversely affects the emissions or the emissions system. In recent documents produced by the SEMA (Specialty Equipment Market Association ), a trade association representing specialty automotive parts manufacturers, the following quotes have been extracted:

"The vehicle manufacturer is not allowed to void the vehicle warranty just because aftermarket equipment is installed on the vehicle. This protection for consumers is the result of a parts self certification program developed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA).

"Under the program, if a parts maker completes the EPA process of self-certifying its parts, the vehicle manufacturer cannot void the warranty even if the certified part has failed and is directly responsible for the warranty claim. In cases where such a failed aftermarket part is responsible for a warranty claim, the manufacturer must arrange a settlement with the part manufacturer, but the new vehicle warrant is not void under the law.

"If the failure to honor a claim involves the new-vehicle warranty, and it appears that the manufacturer is improperly denying a claim, the incident should be reported to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). The FTC is responsible for monitoring compliance with the warranty law; the agency's telephone number is 202-326-3128."

[Kham]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Jason McCallister:


Only on the exhaust system...

Federal law prohibits a dealer from voiding your warranty just because you are using aftermarket speed equipment, with only two exceptions: the warranty can be voided if the aftermarket part causes damage, or adversely affects the emissions or the emissions system. In recent documents produced by the SEMA (Specialty Equipment Market Association ), a trade association representing specialty automotive parts manufacturers, the following quotes have been extracted:

"The vehicle manufacturer is not allowed to void the vehicle warranty just because aftermarket equipment is installed on the vehicle. This protection for consumers is the result of a parts self certification program developed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA).

"Under the program, if a parts maker completes the EPA process of self-certifying its parts, the vehicle manufacturer cannot void the warranty even if the certified part has failed and is directly responsible for the warranty claim. In cases where such a failed aftermarket part is responsible for a warranty claim, the manufacturer must arrange a settlement with the part manufacturer, but the new vehicle warrant is not void under the law.

"If the failure to honor a claim involves the new-vehicle warranty, and it appears that the manufacturer is improperly denying a claim, the incident should be reported to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). The FTC is responsible for monitoring compliance with the warranty law; the agency's telephone number is 202-326-3128."<hr></blockquote>

Thanks for the info! So that means my O2 sensors and egr vavle will be voided under warrnty right? What else will be voided? So i know ahead of time!

[ November 26, 2003: Message edited by: Kham ]</p>

[Jason McCallister]

Best bet is to contact the dealer and ask them. They'll tell you for sure that your cat is under warranty for 80k miles and to not replace it.