K&N and that Elbow

[Loochy88]

I am planning on getting the K&N cai and i was wondering what exactly I would need to install it. Ive done searches and they left me confused so if anyone could help... What exactly is the part number on that elbow i need. What car is it off of? are there any other parts im gunna need besides the kit from K&N and the elbow?

[Firebrd9783]

no, thats all you need, the elbow you can get from www.slponline.com, Here's the link to the elbow I'm going to order it later today or something, its $59.99, so far, this is the cheepest one i can find. [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]

[knowledgefreak]

dont listen to Firebrd9783 that is not the same elbow that comes with the v6 kit for the K&N system. you would probably have better look using air craft tubing instead of that elbow with a big oval hole on it. That piece he refered you to is for a 1Le intake.

You can get everything you need from rksport for a pretty penny for the 3.8 kit.

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[Firebrd9783]

my bad, I was told that it was the exact one I needed, its not oval either, its just the angle of it. but Im going to check it out on rksports, sorry!

[knowledgefreak]

go look at it again it is oval and do you see that big oval snorkal on the top?? what do you think your going to do with that? Duck tape it?

You need a 90 degree elbow and some rubber tubeing if you dont buy the rksport kit. 4.5 inch on the K&N kit side and 3.5" on the elbow connecting to the intake.

[Loochy88]

That RK kit would be nice but its more than i was wanting to have to pay. Is there anyone who got theirs from RK sport and can tell me exactly what came with it? Did it come with that elbow that knowledge and firebird were talking about or did it come with different parts?

[Firebrd9783]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by knowledgefreak:
go look at it again it is oval and do you see that big oval snorkal on the top?? what do you think your going to do with that? Duck tape it?

You need a 90 degree elbow and some rubber tubeing if you dont buy the rksport kit. 4.5 inch on the K&N kit side and 3.5" on the elbow connecting to the intake.<hr></blockquote>

I think the plastic part on top acctually goes on bottom, and on the cars that it acctually comes on its supose to be use to conect to some suport bar, I don't think its a hole, but i'm saving my money and got this fireproof tubing to conect it, it only cost me 8 bucks and its 8 feet long, and i only used about two feet, so if something ever happens to the first two feet, I got 6 more feet of replacement! But seriously, I thik thats what that thing on top is for, suport, but don't quote me on that one [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]

[Firebrd9783]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Loochy88:
That RK kit would be nice but its more than i was wanting to have to pay. Is there anyone who got theirs from RK sport and can tell me exactly what came with it? Did it come with that elbow that knowledge and firebird were talking about or did it come with different parts? <hr></blockquote>

No, it doesn't come with the elbow, but for the same price you can get SLP's and its two tubes and it comes with the elbow, suposbly its better, but I got my K&N for free from a friend, so im not complaining! I also think you can change the two filters on the SLP and get K&Ns for them(unlsess they already are) if you want! Here is SLP's CIA,, Its $219.95 right now, but I think Rks sells one for 10 bucks cheaper, not sure, but check it out!

[Loochy88]

Look at the two elbows. Heres the lt1:

http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...&SHOWEMAIL=Off

And then look at elbow that comes with the SLP CAI.

http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...&SHOWEMAIL=Off

Its in the bottom left of that picture. it looks like the exactly same part part doesnt it? that would mean the lt1 elbow would fit wouldnt it?

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[knowledgefreak]

FIREBIRD why are you talking about stuff you dont know about? YES it does come with the freaking elbow from rksport geez you have no clue man and spreading false information.

Loochy this is what it comes with from rksport.

A piece of rubber that fits over the K&N fipk plastic housing one side is 4.5" wide the other part of the rubber hose is 3.5" that fits on the end of the 90 degree elbow which connects to my 97 3.8 intake.

YES i bought mine from rksport yes i got a 90 degree elbow and the rubber tube deal to fit the two pieces together. Can you fabricate something like this yourself from the part store? YES i would say you could find a rubber 90 degree elbow in the plumbing area and then use hose and clamps to seal them together.

NO that elbow would not work on the K&N fipk system

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[Loochy88]

ahhhh... i feel better now.... thanks knowdledgefreak, your name suits you. Doesnt anyone else know this stuff? There would have had to have been someone else out there whos bought the K&N CAI and ran into this problem. I wonder why theres so much of this rumor going around about 3.8 guys being able to just buy that LT1 elbow and slap on the FIPK? Thats almost what i went and did. Thanks man.

[Loochy88]

Well, now im curious- how many people have run into the problem where they bought the K&N CAI and then LT1 Elbow? Since the LT1 elbow doesnt fit we really need to clear up this confusion. A friend of mine has the LT1 elbow and the K&N Cai in the mail. Just wait till i tell him tomorrow that they wont fit together. We have gotta spread the word.

[knowledgefreak]

look man im just telling you i got a 90 degree elbow from rksport and the whole deal that makes it work is a piece of rubber tube that is 4.5" on one side and 3.5 on the other. Im sure with other tube or hose you could connect the lt1 elbow and the K&N however i really do not think you can simply take the LT1 elbow and hook it directly the the KN with out hosing or such between the two.

Im hunting for pics so you understand what im talking about.. NOt trying to be a dik man.

Just trying to give you proper information. Again Im not saying you absolutly can not use that elbow you can make anything work but here are pictures so you understand.

http://www.geocities.com/cardiac1968/hood2-1.jpg
Install on a 3.4 camaro

http://members.cox.net/eqscorp/Supercharger/Blower1.jpg
Here you will see the rubber piece on the end of the K&N fipk im talking about that is 4.5 on one end and 3.5 on the other No elbow here because it is on the supercharger but that is the rubber piece that is sent with the v6 fipk from rksport along with a 90 degree elbow.

http://members.home.net/blownv6/KN/KNlg2.jpg
FIPK with 90 elbow but with a substitute hump hose between the elbow and fipk above link shows actual hump hose

http://www.angelfire.com/dc/mcaanda/slp_cai.html
slp cold air intake pics with elbow you are looking at.

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[FirebirdGT]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by knowledgefreak:
dont listen to Firebrd9783 that is not the same elbow that comes with the v6 kit for the K&N system. you would probably have better look using air craft tubing instead of that elbow with a big oval hole on it. That piece he refered you to is for a 1Le intake.

You can get everything you need from rksport for a pretty penny for the 3.8 kit.

[ January 20, 2002: Message edited by: knowledgefreak ]<hr></blockquote>


The 1LE elbow is what comes with the SLP 3800V6 CAI. A 1LE elbow looks the same as an LT1 but they are NOT the same. The 1LE can be used to adapt a LT1 CAI to a 3800V6, and is specified on some sites to do just that.

[Loochy88]

FirebirdGT, aren't you saying exactly the opposite of what knowledgefreak is saying. If "The 1LE can be used to adapt a LT1 CAI to a 3800V6" as you say, wouldnt that mean that it could be used to connect the K&N intake (which is made for the LT1) straignt to a 3800V6?


Ok,anyway.. i got the K&N CAI- a friend sold to me for cheap. I still need a good way to connect it... i guess its off to the hardware store for a custom setup. I'd rather use a manufactured elbow or something though. If anyone who has allready connected one can tell me an exact part number (maybe the part number and manufacturer for the elbow that comes with the RK kit) that will work that would help a lot. Im not too good with the custom setups- id rather just buy a part and know im doing it right i guess...
sorry- i know i being a pain about this :(