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    what would sound deeper and give me more preformance? i dont really race like i used too so just need something for my daily driver its a 3.8 96.

  • #2
    deepest would be 3" without a doubt.

    performance wise there was just a 2 page argument a few weeks ago. [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] You'll never get a straight answer. I think 3" works well. Others will say its too much for a v6. Either way, you will gain performance over the stock setup.

    3" sounds mean though. ;)

    -Justin
    2001 Camaro Z28 (A4) Sunset Orange Metallic w/ T-tops, Monsoon Stereo, factory GFX, BMR STB from the v6, 18K miles<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/jhkcam22\" target=\"_blank\">2001 Camaro Z28</a><br /><br />Dads car: 2002 35th aniv. Bright red Z28, fully loaded<br /><br />R.I.P.<br />1995 3.4L Camaro (A4) Bright Red<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/jhkcam\" target=\"_blank\">1995 3.4 Camaro</a>

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    • #3
      I have the same car with 2.5" i pipe and flowmaster 80's. It sounds okay, deep but QUIET! I'm going to go with the 3" tomorrow because 2.5" isn't cutting it. I don't want to sound obnoxious, but I want my exhaust louder than stock! As for loss of performance, just do a search for 3 inch i pipe... you'll find COUNTLESS arguments on weither it affects performance due to back preassure and what not. Good luck.
      \'96 M5 Camaro White<br />Flowmaster Full Catback<br />SLP CAI<br />180* Thermo<br /><br />Stereo: H/U - Clarion DXZ725 <br />Alipne Type-R 6.5 Components (front), <br />Alpine Alpine SPS-1629S 6.5 <br />2 10\" JL 10w0<br /><br />\"One Love\" -Bob Marley

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      • #4
        I would say 2.75 for a daily driver. I think that it would keep is slightly quieter than the 3', and would be good all around for lightly modded NA applications. I got my 3' and I love it, but I am planning to go turbo.

        -Justin
        <b><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/drkmind11\" target=\"_blank\">2000 Red Firebird Coupe, A4.</a></b> ((3.42 Gears, LSD Stock))<br />Details: 3\" Edelbrock Exhaust, 3\" Catco Cat,160* Thermostat, 8% Tint, TA Chrome Wheels, Viper 550.

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        • #5
          I went with 2.5" and I'm kind of wishing I had gone with 3" now that I think about it. I will make the jump eventually, but I will get nice, better flowing pipes and a high flow cat as well. As for loudness, well, my cutout suffices just fine for now [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img] you can hear my car more than a mile away with open cutout at wot.
          -Eric<br />2002 Navy Blue Camaro...Striped and Stalled. 35th Anniversary SS wheels <br />Best ET: 15.384 @ 88.32 on street tires<br />Project Whitney: Goal, 14.0 1/4 by summer 2008.

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          • #6
            Just had an Edelbrock cat-back delivered a few days ago, and it's going on with a 3" cat and 3" pipes Tuesday. I went back and forth on 2.5" or 3" since February. I'll add some thoughts after it's installed. ...
            2002 Firebird <br />Mods: Whisper CAI and Lid, K&N, Edelbrock Cat-Back, Hurst Billet Plus Shifter w/Lou\'s Short Stick, BMR STB, 32mm front sway bar w/polygraphite bushings and end links, PHB polygraphite bushings, HPP3 tuned

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            • #7
              3" is the way to go. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
              <b>99 Camaro Z28 A4</b><br />R.I.P. 00 Firebird 3.8<br />14.89 @ 90, 2.03 60\'

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              • #8
                yea im gonna just go with some 3 inch pipes and a flowmaster muffler.

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                • #9
                  Here's my proof 3" is better! ;)
                  http://www.camarov6.com/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=1&t=009691
                  Jason McCallister, Founder & Webmaster<br /><a href=\"http://www.wtfba.org\" target=\"_blank\">West Tennessee F-Body Association, Inc.</a><br /><br />2000 Camaro - <a href=\"http://www.wtfba.org/site/view_member.php?ID=68\" target=\"_blank\">Details</a>

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                  • #10
                    I got a 3". Raspy around 3500rpm or under quick acceleration. Some loss on low end torque. Doesn't sound depend on muffler? and with a Borla, you got some options. The neighbors hate me with a 3/8" hole drilled in the Borla block-off plate ... but I keep telling them ... I could make it louder.

                    [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
                    Zaino; FireBatCave Decals; Red Inside<br /><br />K&N Filter & Lid; Removed MAF screen; FRA; Raised Air Box; 180°F Stat; BMR STB; 3\" Catco & S-pipe; Borla Cat-Back; O2 Sim; HPPIII; NGK TR55s; Taylor 8mm wires<br /><br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/cbass300\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/cbass300</a>

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                    • #11
                      <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Camarorulz:
                      I went with 2.5" and I'm kind of wishing I had gone with 3" now that I think about it. I will make the jump eventually, but I will get nice, better flowing pipes and a high flow cat as well. As for loudness, well, my cutout suffices just fine for now [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img] you can hear my car more than a mile away with open cutout at wot.<hr></blockquote>

                      same here i went with 2.5'' next month i will be going 3'' i pipe,s pipe 3'' catco cat and a cutout. go with the 3
                      2005 Cavalier LS Sport M5<br /> <a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/firefighter8615\" target=\"_blank\">http://members.cardomain.com/firefighter8615</a>

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                      • #12
                        From what I understand, if you go with a 3 inch you will notice a lag under acceleration. Not sure what causes this though.
                        1996 Camaro RS Bright Red<br />3.8L V6 A4 3.42\'s<br />K&N Filtercharger<br />Flowmaster 80 Series Muffler<br />Y87 Performance Package

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                        • #13
                          <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by SixBanger:
                          From what I understand, if you go with a 3 inch you will notice a lag under acceleration. Not sure what causes this though.<hr></blockquote>

                          Not true. ;)

                          Under any kind of decent acceleration you won't notice any lag b/c once the car is above ~2200, it takes off... you will gain acceleration. The only time you'll notice a little loss is if you like to drive like a grandma shifting at 2000 rpms. :D Then it may feel a little sluggish due to less backpressure from the bigger pipes. But if you drive like that, you shouldn't be wasting money on performance mods.

                          -Justin

                          [ May 01, 2003: Message edited by: jhkcam ]</p>
                          2001 Camaro Z28 (A4) Sunset Orange Metallic w/ T-tops, Monsoon Stereo, factory GFX, BMR STB from the v6, 18K miles<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/jhkcam22\" target=\"_blank\">2001 Camaro Z28</a><br /><br />Dads car: 2002 35th aniv. Bright red Z28, fully loaded<br /><br />R.I.P.<br />1995 3.4L Camaro (A4) Bright Red<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/jhkcam\" target=\"_blank\">1995 3.4 Camaro</a>

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                          • #14
                            ohhhh. thanks for telling me that. when i ordered my catback i was going to go to with 2.5 but now that i know that i think i might go with 3. how much better does 3 inch sound then 2.5 btw?
                            1996 Camaro RS Bright Red<br />3.8L V6 A4 3.42\'s<br />K&N Filtercharger<br />Flowmaster 80 Series Muffler<br />Y87 Performance Package

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                            • #15
                              <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by SixBanger:
                              ohhhh. thanks for telling me that. when i ordered my catback i was going to go to with 2.5 but now that i know that i think i might go with 3. how much better does 3 inch sound then 2.5 btw?<hr></blockquote>

                              IMO 3" sounds much better. It is definately deeper.
                              Sound wise, i'm quite sure no one will argue with me, 3" is the way to go. If this gets into a performance debate, you will hear many opinions about which size is better for a v6. Either way, you WILL gain some performance over the stock setup. I'm happy with my 3" :D

                              -Justin

                              [ May 02, 2003: Message edited by: jhkcam ]</p>
                              2001 Camaro Z28 (A4) Sunset Orange Metallic w/ T-tops, Monsoon Stereo, factory GFX, BMR STB from the v6, 18K miles<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/jhkcam22\" target=\"_blank\">2001 Camaro Z28</a><br /><br />Dads car: 2002 35th aniv. Bright red Z28, fully loaded<br /><br />R.I.P.<br />1995 3.4L Camaro (A4) Bright Red<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/jhkcam\" target=\"_blank\">1995 3.4 Camaro</a>

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