Scared of Free Ram Air....

[firebirdman225]

I really been wanting to do the FRA mod, but the whole idea of water possibly getting into the engine causing hydrolock and stuff scares the crap out of me, really is this a safe mod??? Will water not get in???

[lord_gufi]

you gotta got through some steep water for that to happen i drove through a rain storm for 40 miles and back nothing wrong with my engine =), just make sure you dont have a paper filter the K&N is oil based ( repells water ) so unless your spashing a TON of water i think your good

[strobhen]

your not going to get water in your car w/ FRA

the free version of the mod has no scoop, water could get up there, and it could splash on the filter some, but there is enough room there for your filter to start sucking air from other sources (like the stock slit).

basically, w/ the free ram air, if you get to the point that your engine is sucking in water, you will probably have already have a nice puddle of water in your interior.

[Kidinthehall2001]

Don't be SCURRED!!! :D

[F1GT]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by firebirdman225:
I really been wanting to do the FRA mod, but the whole idea of water possibly getting into the engine causing hydrolock and stuff scares the crap out of me, really is this a safe mod??? Will water not get in???<hr></blockquote>

I drove in the rain one time, regular down pour, not shower or heavy rain. I tried not to follow any cars because I see the water they kick up, especially trucks. I drove from the gym to home, which is about 13 miles. Right before I got home I pulled into the gas station for some gas, while I was at it I went to pop the hood and check to see if ANY water could possibly get up and into there. Sure enough, my K&N was damp and there were a few traces of water on the other side(the clean side) of the filter.

I think I'm gonna buy some aluminum pieces from Home Depot and cut it up to make a block off plate. Then I will raise the air box to try and make up for it. The only question is the clearance between the plate and the filter, which I don't know the distance of. I certainly don't want to tape it down, I think the force of the air will push it against the filter.

Oh, another thing is the filter gets dirty hella quick...but, on the bright side, the engine is more free-revving after the mod :D

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[Guardiannknight]

I would suggest not doing the free ram air mod. The water is not the problem. I did the free ram air mod and I had no problems with water ever getting up in the engine. The problem with the free ram air mod is, that you pull hot air in your engine. You are pulling air that is going across your radiator. Now if you made something that is like the fast toys or slp ram air kits, then it would work better. I closed up the free ram air with a piece of alum. that I cut to fit perfectly under my air filter. I then raised the air lid to the max using washers. I feel more power with the raised air lid. You will gain a little with the free ram air even though you are pulling in hot air, but, I suggest raising the air lid and not even worrying about the free ram air mod. Just a suggestion. ;)

[ September 23, 2002: Message edited by: Guardiannknight ]</p>

[toast]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Guardiannknight:
I would suggest not doing the free ram air mod. The water is not the problem. I did the free ram air mod and I had no problems with water ever getting up in the engine. The problem with the free ram air mod is, that you pull hot air in your engine. You are pulling air that is going across your radiator. Now if you made something that is like the fast toys or slp ram air kits, then it would work better. I closed up the free ram air with a piece of alum. that I cut to fit perfectly under my air filter. I then raised the air lid to the max using washers. I feel more power with the raised air lid. You will gain a little with the free ram air even though you are pulling in hot air, but, I suggest raising the air lid and not even worrying about the free ram air mod. Just a suggestion. ;)

[ September 23, 2002: Message edited by: Guardiannknight ]<hr></blockquote>

I beg to differ. My air box has alwayed stay cool and dry. I can see it pulling up alittle hot air at a stop but not while you are rolling down the road.

[Red V6 Raider]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Guardiannknight:
I would suggest not doing the free ram air mod. The water is not the problem. I did the free ram air mod and I had no problems with water ever getting up in the engine. The problem with the free ram air mod is, that you pull hot air in your engine. You are pulling air that is going across your radiator. Now if you made something that is like the fast toys or slp ram air kits, then it would work better. I closed up the free ram air with a piece of alum. that I cut to fit perfectly under my air filter. I then raised the air lid to the max using washers. I feel more power with the raised air lid. You will gain a little with the free ram air even though you are pulling in hot air, but, I suggest raising the air lid and not even worrying about the free ram air mod. Just a suggestion. ;)

[ September 23, 2002: Message edited by: Guardiannknight ]<hr></blockquote>

You think that the air from outside flowing accross your radiator is hotter that the air that sits around under your hood? :rolleyes:

[nikon]

hmm ya I checked with OBd-2...I too did the block off plate...and the air is much hotter with the block off plate installed...once your moving the volumne of air is so great it doesnt have time to heat up that much.....the only reason I wouldnt suggets doing this is because yor filter gets really dirty really quick

[99Camaro99]

hey Nikon, do you think I can get a hookup with that Autotap again sometime soon. I want to check a few things on my car. Thanks.

[Guardiannknight]

Welp, must be how I have mine setup. I have air coming from the fog lights up to the intake, so I'm guessing that is the reason I feel more of a diff. keeping the air blocked off from the radiator. [img]smile.gif[/img] I forgot to add that in last night. I was a little on the sleepy side. :D

[ September 24, 2002: Message edited by: Guardiannknight ]</p>

[Stealth95]

Hot air is not as dense as cold air. Since your computer constantly trys to maintain a 14.7 to 1 air/fuel ratio not as much fuel can be added. If you think the air going across a 180 degree radiator is not hot feel the air the fan is blowing when on. I think there are a bunch of people getting their hopes up. A cold air ram induction or even a cold air mod alone would produce more power because you can also add more fuel to be burnt. The fuel rail has a return line to keep it as cold and dense as possible. This theory is also used with forced induction (more fuel and air = more power).

[toast]

It is not hitting the ratator, acually it runs across the condensor for the A/C and even then it still does not get hot. It has no time too.

[SLOWBRAEATER]

If you put a block off plate on wouldnt that stop the air from getting in your tb and motor, wouldnt that be bad? If i custom made my own scoop would water definately get into my motor? Thanks for any information