Lingenfelter Supertube!

[Deoxyribonucleicvitriol]

I understand that KBeezy, FirebirdGT (I checked your website photos), and 12secondV6 (I think) have this system... obviously my sources of information are limited so I'd really appreciate all the help any or all of you can give.

It seems like this system would be superior to SLP and K&N, and I'll probably order it within the next few months if a few questions are answered...

1) I understand it connects in a different place than SLP CAI.... why? Supposedly this place is cleaner?

2) What kind of special modifications to the system (if any) would I need to do to maximize the benefits of the intake? For example... would I need to smooth the inside of my airbox or something?

3) There aren't any filters on this thing?.... why aren't they necessary?

Please supply any other additional information you have.

Thanks!

[ September 12, 2004, 02:15 AM: Message edited by: Deoxyribonucleicvitriol ]

[ReodDai]

I thought these super tubes ect, were just replacing the rubber flex hose that goes from the lid to the TB.

[Deoxyribonucleicvitriol]

Check it out: http://www.lingenfelter.com/lingenfe...=16&pf%5Fid=51

I'm pretty sure it's not what you just said.

[KBeezy]

Mine is for a 1993 LT1 car because my car is a 3.4 ... Look at any aftermarket intake for a 1993-1995 3.4 and it is the same part number as the 1993 LT1 cars. So I purchased their 1993 LT1 intake which is MUCH different than their 3800 V6 intake. The one pictured is the style I have. Mine comes with the 8" (or 9", I forget) long 4" wide K&N cone filter. The one for the 3800s just bolts up to stock intake box....

http://bellkevin.home.comcast.net/cai2.jpg
http://bellkevin.home.comcast.net/cai3.jpg

[HBHRacing]

I have that for the LT1. it is without a doubt the best CAI I have ever seen. I have some pics I will get up later

[FirebirdGT]

Originally posted by Deoxyribonucleicvitriol:
I understand that KBeezy, FirebirdGT (I checked your website photos), and 12secondV6 (I think) have this system... obviously my sources of information are limited so I'd really appreciate all the help any or all of you can give.

It seems like this system would be superior to SLP and K&N, and I'll probably order it within the next few months if a few questions are answered...

1) I understand it connects in a different place than SLP CAI.... why? Supposedly this place is cleaner?

2) What kind of special modifications to the system (if any) would I need to do to maximize the benefits of the intake? For example... would I need to smooth the inside of my airbox or something?

3) There aren't any filters on this thing?.... why aren't they necessary?

Please supply any other additional information you have.

Thanks!

Look at the pictures on my site again.

It connects from the TB to the existing filter housing. Replaces all the restrictions in the intake.

Went in easy and works very well. You will need to add a clamp at the TB however. Mine came loose.

[FirebirdGT]

Originally posted by Deoxyribonucleicvitriol:
Check it out: http://www.lingenfelter.com/lingenfe...=16&pf%5Fid=51

I'm pretty sure it's not what you just said.

The photo on the Lingenfelter site is for the LT1, not the V6. It is much different (as can be seen in the photos on my site).

[Deoxyribonucleicvitriol]

Awesome. Thanks guys. I'd love to see those pics HBH. I'm pretty much set on getting this one.

***Why isn't there a conical filter on it though?***

I am ignorant about this part of the car and am about to go out and try to figure this out.... but if the system is the same general concept on the V8s and the V6s.... why does the V8 get a filter and not the V6? I don't want to get crud in my engine. I'm sure there's a legitimate reason though... I'd appreciate an explanation [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Also, can anyone link me to a picture of an SLP CAI setup? I'm insterested in seeing the difference between that and the Lingenfelter just for information's sake.

[ September 12, 2004, 03:03 PM: Message edited by: Deoxyribonucleicvitriol ]

[fabolous24]

theres a pic of my SLP on my cardomain site

[Deoxyribonucleicvitriol]

Thanks fabolous24.

I just got done looking at my stock intake...... WOOOOOOWWWW that is restrictive. Dang at one point its smashed 'till it's like an inch deep.

Question: Why do they make stuff like that? I mean...honestly it would seem that by putting an aftermarket thing on there I am degrading SOMETHING about the intake because it just doesn't seem logical that they wouldn't just put a big tube on there in the first place.

...and once again... why isn't there a filter on the lingenfelter? (I'm not impatient... just letting more people see the question)

[FirebirdGT]

Originally posted by Deoxyribonucleicvitriol:
...and once again... why isn't there a filter on the lingenfelter? (I'm not impatient... just letting more people see the question)

Because it uses the STOCK filter. There is no need to replace it in the first place.

All the photos on my site clearly show this.

[Deoxyribonucleicvitriol]

I R Learning as I go. What can I say? lol... I had no idea that box was a filter.

[KrisXpc]

Or if you want to spend 20 bucks on a intake system that i personaly noticed power increase on, listen up.

Went to home depot and got a 3" rubber elbow (plumbing section) i descreened my maf and then attached the rubber elbow to the upper intake. got some 3" aluminum stretchable/crimped ventalation hose (ventalation isle) and put it in the rubber elbow, then ran the vent hose to the stock air filter box..i have a K&n filter in it and i cut out all around the box for maximum air intake..then i took a razor and cut a small circle out on the rubber elbow for the sensor, it fits really snug on there.it honestly looks after market professional, ill get some pics up soon.i really notice the difference, only thing i dont like is at idle you can hear it guzzling air or maybe its the engine?

The way i noticed power increse was before when i shifted into second, i would do a minor scratch (Manual 5-speed, with stock intake)
now with the new system i put in there is a much longer scratch, i mostly feel the increase around 3K+ Rmps.

Its cheap and was pretty much an experiment, if i have any problems ill post it, but after 2 weeks.none yet.

want better instructions to make yours? or you just want to make fun of my harmless eperiment? my aim S/N is KrisXpc

-Kris

[93camaro_zzz]

This is a good mod to do! We also did it on my car, and I can definetly notice a difference. My car cant even chirp second, cause it has 275's, but now it can. And not just that, the power comes on much quicker and smoother. I likey alot! :D

[ September 19, 2004, 10:14 PM: Message edited by: 93camaro_zzz ]

[12secondv6]

Lingenfelter supertube.....
SLP cold air kit...........

I run both

SLP cold air kit is BY FAR MUCH BETTER

The Lingenfelter is just a tube from TB to stock air box. I eventually improved on mine and have a large conical k&n air filter on it. It still, with the conical air filter, would suck air from in the engine compartment. Not overly effecient, better than stock, but not the best.

The SLP cold air kit is a rubber elbow off the TB, single then dual metal tubing that allows air filters to be relocated outside the engine bay in the front fender. Then dual k&n air filters mounted at a 15 degree angle. I then improved on this set up by taking 3 inch metal flexible tubing and running them from both the nostrils on my bird to each air filter. I then took a 5 inch long, 3 inch diameter tube piece and cut it in half. I then wrapped each air filter with half of the metal tubing. So, now air is forced into the nostrils, forced into dual 3 inch tubing, then is forced into each k&n air filter, since there is metal tubing on the traditional open side of the air filter the air is automatically forced into the SLP cold air kit and then follows up to the engine and viola!

Now, SLP cold air kit has a metal tube, so you may mention heat soak??? Well, in all the years I have run it, I have not experienced any heat soak issues.

I keep the Lingenfelter kit as a back up when I have nitrous backfires.

SLP is better