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$470 for CIA heades ceramic coated shipped. $308 for Pacesetter headers black painted. Which should I get the guy I have been talking to said that the ceramic coating wears off the pacesetter and if i get ceramic coated headers from pacesetter it would cost around the same as RKSport headers. So I need some opinions by the end of the day please. Thanks.
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someone help me decide please lol [img]graemlins/fluffy.gif[/img]1999 Firebird Black<br />A4 3.08 gears<br />Mods: Carbon Fiber Whisper Lid, Raised Air Box, K&N Air Filter, Direct Hits Ignition, Flowmaster American Thunder 3\", 160 Degree Hypertech Thermostat, SLP Fan Switch, 3\" High Flow Cat<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=273903\" target=\"_blank\">My car on Cardomain</a> -
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by TheBlackSwordsMan:
$470 for CIA heades ceramic coated shipped.<hr></blockquote>
Where do you find this deal?Keith - 99 'maro - White M5 - bumpstick and boltons - 13.65 @ 101 N/A
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Actually its 670 typo sorry lol. I wish it was 470.1999 Firebird Black<br />A4 3.08 gears<br />Mods: Carbon Fiber Whisper Lid, Raised Air Box, K&N Air Filter, Direct Hits Ignition, Flowmaster American Thunder 3\", 160 Degree Hypertech Thermostat, SLP Fan Switch, 3\" High Flow Cat<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=273903\" target=\"_blank\">My car on Cardomain</a>Comment
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I think that is strictly for the headers.. headers plus y pipe are more..
man if you can get your hands on the pacesetters I'd say go for it.. but, supposedly pacesetter hasn't even started making them yet..-Brad
98 Firebird - gone from mod mode to keep it running and useable mode.
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CIA, hands down! Worth every penny!! :D<b>Red 1999 Firebird M5</b><br />Whisper Lid,Borla Catback,K&N,Dual Friction Center Force Clutch,Hurst Shifter w/Lou\'s Short Stick,!FRA,Suncoast Ramair hood,160 Thermo,!maf,Chrome ZO6 Wheels, Painted Calipers, CIA Headers, Taylor Wires, NGK Spark Plugs, 3\" Catco, Jet Chip Stage II, BMR STB, LCA, PHR, SFC, Fan Switch, FTRA<br /><b>Old Dyno Numbers: 183 RWHP, 217 RWTRQ</b><br /><a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/redsixer\" target=\"_blank\">http://community.webshots.com/user/redsixer</a>Comment
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I got a quote from CIA and its 670 with headers y-pipe and the collector gaskets. They have none for the block so I will have to use my old ones or get some new ones from my dealership unless anyone here knows where I can get em cheap.1999 Firebird Black<br />A4 3.08 gears<br />Mods: Carbon Fiber Whisper Lid, Raised Air Box, K&N Air Filter, Direct Hits Ignition, Flowmaster American Thunder 3\", 160 Degree Hypertech Thermostat, SLP Fan Switch, 3\" High Flow Cat<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=273903\" target=\"_blank\">My car on Cardomain</a>Comment
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Dan tells everyone $670 shipped. No matter where you are on the planet. [img]tongue.gif[/img] You can get some from the dealership for like $13. Others have ordered the felpros, i think that is what they are called. They run like $18. I think I saw them either on thunderracing.com or tbyrne.com. If not just ask around. You can't go wrong with either one. Good luck. BTW, it may take a while to get your headers because he's got like 5 or 6 orders of the 3.8L headers and he has to make them from scratch. Oh weeel, just some advise so be patient. ;)<b>Red 1999 Firebird M5</b><br />Whisper Lid,Borla Catback,K&N,Dual Friction Center Force Clutch,Hurst Shifter w/Lou\'s Short Stick,!FRA,Suncoast Ramair hood,160 Thermo,!maf,Chrome ZO6 Wheels, Painted Calipers, CIA Headers, Taylor Wires, NGK Spark Plugs, 3\" Catco, Jet Chip Stage II, BMR STB, LCA, PHR, SFC, Fan Switch, FTRA<br /><b>Old Dyno Numbers: 183 RWHP, 217 RWTRQ</b><br /><a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/redsixer\" target=\"_blank\">http://community.webshots.com/user/redsixer</a>Comment
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Thanks man. I will be patient on the headers. I am still kinda debating on the pacesetter but I don't know if they are poor quality or not. I would have to get my own y-pipe made and I really don't have much time during the weekdays to get anything done. I may just fork the money and wait.1999 Firebird Black<br />A4 3.08 gears<br />Mods: Carbon Fiber Whisper Lid, Raised Air Box, K&N Air Filter, Direct Hits Ignition, Flowmaster American Thunder 3\", 160 Degree Hypertech Thermostat, SLP Fan Switch, 3\" High Flow Cat<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=273903\" target=\"_blank\">My car on Cardomain</a>Comment
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Points of interest:
1) CIA headers - Excellent quality.
2) Pacesetter 3.8L headers - Do not exist.
Gee, lemme work this one out...
Other footnotes:
a) Headers not really worth the money or effort, in my opinion. Save your money for something else.
b) If you are going to get headers, get them ceramic coated.-James<br /><br />\'96 3.8L A4 Camaro (SOLD)Comment
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I agree with the post above. I though Pacesetter didn't make headers for 3.8 yet. I also think it's a waste on a NA V6.Comment
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The current shorty headers for $500+ is not worth doing. IMO unless headers are tuned, and CIA nor RKSports are, they're worthless. The only gains CIA or RKSport headers will show will be through their ceramic coatings, not designs.
However, a custom Y-pipe might help, but Im not sure of this yet.
Me personally? I'm waiting on longtubes if anything - no need blowing $700 to see +2rwhp.2002 5-spd NBM Camaro
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The main reason I am getting headers is I am getting heads and cam job done sometime in the near future and I would get more hp and torque from the heads and cam if I had headers to help increase the flow of exhaust. Dom when do you think they will come out with long tube headers for our cars?
P.S. there was a guy that was on this board that is a reseller for pacesetter. He said they have pacesetter headers painted for the 3.8 in stock. If you want that email address I will email or post it for you all.
[ July 23, 2002: Message edited by: TheBlackSwordsMan ]</p>1999 Firebird Black<br />A4 3.08 gears<br />Mods: Carbon Fiber Whisper Lid, Raised Air Box, K&N Air Filter, Direct Hits Ignition, Flowmaster American Thunder 3\", 160 Degree Hypertech Thermostat, SLP Fan Switch, 3\" High Flow Cat<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=273903\" target=\"_blank\">My car on Cardomain</a>Comment
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ok im new at this but im considering headers and since someone said they are a waste on a v6 except that the y pipe might be important. could you just have a custom y pipe made to get the same affect and keep the manifolds.
and i have heard that there is a minor horse power gain like 5-7hp if that from headers but those were rksports.
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or am i an idiot
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