CryO2 intake system

[Loochy88]

group purchase thread from the for sale section:

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This group purchase is for Design Engineering Inc's new Cryogenic Intake
System. This system was voted best new performance product by SEMA in 2002
and is now ready for sale in 2003. The CryO²™ is a revolutionary new, award winning product designed to reduce the temperature of the air/fuel intake charge thus creating power. Through the science of aerodynamics and cryogenics Design Engineering has developed a system to harness the cryogenic properties of liquid Co2 to lower the air/fuel intake charge by up to 60%. The system is modular and can be easily expanded. The CryO²™ system provides two methods of cooling the air charge and one method of cooling the fuel charge all utilizing the same burst of liquid Co². Co² is readily available at any welding supply shop or where paintball guns are charged.

You can purchase a full kit or only the components you want which include the tank and install kit, cryogenic air intake, cryogenic fuel bar, and intercooler sprayer. Below is a description of each component.


Tank and installation kit - The foundation to every CryO²™ System. Must have this kit to utilize CryO²™ components. The kit includes a 5 pound Co² tank, cryogenic solenoid valve, all necessary fittings, 14 ft. stainless steel hose, full wide open switch, arming switch, and wiring kit. Only one kit is needed to operate all the CryO²™ components.


Cryogenic Air Intake - The CryO²™ Air Intake consists of an aerodynamically design bulb with a cryogenic chamber which is mounted in a 4" segment of air tube. As the air passes over the bulb heat is removed from the air charge resulting in a colder, denser more powerful charge. Dyno testing showed a reduction in intake air temperature of more than 35%. The CryO²™ Air Intake can be used on tubocharged, supercharged or naturally aspirated applications. Multiple units can be used for colder results. Installs in minutes and comes with silicone connection sleeve, hose clamps and connection/vent hose.


Intercooler sprayer - The CryO²™ Intercooler Sprayer mounts directly to the front of the intercooler or aftercooler and vents the liquid Co² directly onto the cooling fins thus enhancing the performance of the intercooler by more than 50%. This component must always be the last in the CryO²™ system as it vents the liquid Co² charge.


Cryogenic Fuel Bar - The CryO²™ Fuel Bar is a billet aluminum extension to the fuel line with a cryogenic chamber. The bar is charged with liquid Co2 and freezes to -80 degrees f. Heat is removed from the fuel as it passes through resulting in a colder fuel charge. The CryO2™ Fuel Bar comes in -6AN and -10AN (can be reduced for -8AN) fuel line size. Four cryo-ports allow versatility of installation. Comes complete with vent plug, cryo-port plugs and connection/vent hose. The CryO²™ Fuel Bar can be used alone or in conjunction with other Co2 components. It comes either anodized or polished with engraved DEI flame logo.

Prices are as follows:
-Tank and install kit = 350.00
-Cryogenic Intake Cooler = 139.00
-Intercooler Spray bar (16"x5") = 89.95
-Intercooler Spray bar (8"x4") = 79.95
-Cryogenic Fuel Bar (red, blue, purple, or polished) = 120.00
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to see thread go here: http://www.camarov6.com/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=8&t=003458

what in the world is this? does anyone want to make guesses on how beneficial it would be? how safe it would be?

[PewterBird]

Would this be a mod for a daily driver, or more of a track car mod. Is doesn't seem as dangerous as Nitrous, and does it run all time to constanantly cool the air, or is it only during WOT. It like an interesting mod.

[speedy-v6-camaro]

The only problem is that CO2 is not an oxidizer like NO2. It will only cool the intake charge as well as taking up some room in the combustion chamber as an inert gas that does nothing but dilute the amount of O2. The only way it would work is if the CO2 cooled the air enough to allow the dense mixture to contain more O2 than there normally would.

[nikon]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by speedy-v6-camaro:
The only problem is that CO2 is not an oxidizer like NO2. It will only cool the intake charge as well as taking up some room in the combustion chamber as an inert gas that does nothing but dilute the amount of O2. The only way it would work is if the CO2 cooled the air enough to allow the dense mixture to contain more O2 than there normally would.<hr></blockquote>

ok from what I understand this system does not spray and Co2 into the intake manifold, it simply cools the air through that bulb mechanism.....this is good, another benifit for us N/A guys would be the fuel line cooler, kinda like a cool can just, alot colder which is much better....and is actually very good -80 is damn cold and would make your fuel very dense....therefore creating extreme combustion....This looks like a track thing...you cand just push a button and expect to see gains immediatley, the system must be turned on for a minute or two at least from my experiences....

[BattyV6]

This kit, to me, isn't worth the money. We installed one on a Protege5 and had nothing but problems. The fittings weren't correct, and even the proper fittings leaked (teflon paste). The intake temperatures do drop drastically though. I really wanted this kit, but now after seeing and installing one...no thanks, better the money gets spent elsewhere.

-Andrew

[Loochy88]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by BattyV6:
This kit, to me, isn't worth the money. We installed one on a Protege5 and had nothing but problems. The fittings weren't correct, and even the proper fittings leaked (teflon paste). The intake temperatures do drop drastically though. I really wanted this kit, but now after seeing and installing one...no thanks, better the money gets spent elsewhere.

-Andrew<hr></blockquote>

ok, its understandable you had problems with the install, but say you actually got it working perfectly... what kind of gains might you see. Did you happen to dyno the 'lude, even with the leaks and such?

[speedy-v6-camaro]

How big is the bulb....wouldn't this restrict air at all times too.