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    does anybody know the gains that the ftra will see hp and tq wise w/o the ram air in effect?
    2001 Arctic White Firebird<br />More mods than I\'m allowed to list!

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    probably none...the only reason its better is the ramming effect...
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    • #3
      I average .2-.3 better times if that helps.
      <b>99 Camaro Z28 A4</b><br />R.I.P. 00 Firebird 3.8<br />14.89 @ 90, 2.03 60\'

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      • #4
        <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Arctc Wolf:
        does anybody know the gains that the ftra will see hp and tq wise w/o the ram air in effect?<hr></blockquote>

        get a boost gauge, i'm sure at 90+ it's good for about 1.5 lb of boost ;)


        no but seriously, there IS a notiecable pickup in the top end...and my times are consistenly faster over the Free ram air mod.
        I think though if i can get past the sealing the box air tight issues (my lower box is mangled) it'll help even more
        2011 Camaro LS 6M, in black.

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        • #5
          <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by navyblue2000:


          get a boost gauge, i'm sure at 90+ it's good for about 1.5 lb of boost ;)
          <hr></blockquote>
          Yes especially since air is considered incompressable for thses purposes at subsonic highway speeds... [img]smile.gif[/img]

          that is there is no ram effect. Gains are do to colder air and less restriction to flow.
          Matt<br />2000 Firebird<br /><br /><a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/index.php?\" target=\"_blank\">FullThrottleV6.com</a>

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          • #6
            I hope your joking about the 1.5psi. You're lucky if it shows 0.5psi. Seriously tho you'll get more of a "kick" on the highway, but it's not that huge.

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            • #7
              <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by 99Camaro99:
              I hope your joking about the 1.5psi. You're lucky if it shows 0.5psi. Seriously tho you'll get more of a "kick" on the highway, but it's not that huge.<hr></blockquote>

              umm...check the link.

              also a few months ago, arctic wolf recommended the same thing for someone with the FTRA...only he was serious.
              I am not
              hence the ;)
              2011 Camaro LS 6M, in black.

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              • #8
                <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by navyblue2000:


                umm...check the link.

                also a few months ago, arctic wolf recommended the same thing for someone with the FTRA...only he was serious.
                I am not
                hence the ;)
                <hr></blockquote>

                well the ;) never loaded on my screen the first time...I swear! :D

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                • #9
                  yea, i did suggest the use of a boost gauge to see what kind of boost could be achieved. i don't think I said 1.5 lbs. of boost though. Would there be any dyno gains from it, and if so, how much, cuz I was figuring maybe 5 rwhp max and 10 rwtq. does this sound logical?
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                  • #10
                    A boost gauge probably isn't sensitive enough to get the numbers you're looking for, especially if you're expecting about 1 psi range of pressure differential.

                    You want something that measures on a smaller scale, like inches of water (27.68" H2O = 1 psi). You should be able to get stuff like this from a supply house like Grainger.

                    In another discussion (the supersucker), I mention that the best way to compare would be to get a differential gauge. It compares 2 inputs rather than measuring vs a setpoint or the pressure at the gauge. Measure the difference between the FTRA inside and just in front of the stock intake slot, and you'll get a better picture of what the FTRA does, since at the scale we're working at ("H20), the stock intake probably isn't at 0..
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