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  • #61
    Re: Does a ram air setup on a V6 do anything?

    ^even if there were gains, you're not going to see them on a dyno; something like a ram air hood would only manifest itself on the track

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    • #62
      Re: Does a ram air setup on a V6 do anything?

      Originally posted by Smoke Panther View Post
      After all, if you knew anything about nitrous, you'd know that it's purpose is to provide more oxygen to the mixture, not more fuel.
      is this a joke?

      more oxygen in the cylinders means it will get more fuel

      this extra fuel and oxygen is what gives you power, not just stuffing more air into the engine

      why do you think you have to rejet a carb when you use nitrous? because if you dont you are going to run WAY too lean due to the increased amount of oxygen in the engine

      OBD cars will adjust for this

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      • #63
        Re: Does a ram air setup on a V6 do anything?

        You really should understand posts when replying to them, and know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
        Originally posted by cam98aro View Post
        more oxygen in the cylinders means it will get more fuel

        this extra fuel and oxygen is what gives you power, not just stuffing more air into the engine
        too bad that's not what I said. Contrary to what you think I said, adding more oxygen is NOT the same as putting more air into each cylinder. But, I might as well be talking to a broken can opener, since you've demonstrated that understanding my posts is beyond your capabilities...maybe quoting some other sites will get the point across

        So the injection of nitrous oxide into an engine means that more oxygen is available during combustion.
        http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question259.htm
        During the combustion process, at about 570 degrees F, nitrous breaks down and releases oxygen.
        http://www.nitrousdirect.com/faq.html

        And nitrous simply provides your engine with copious amounts of oxygen.
        http://www.kitcarmag.com/techarticle...tem/index.html

        Nitrous oxide carries more oxygen to the engine
        http://www.dragtimes.com/nitrous-oxide.php

        Originally posted by cam98aro View Post
        OBD cars will adjust for this
        What does this matter? No one here is talking about running nitrous and what type of car computers can handle it. If you had cared to follow the thread, rather than engage in this wanton display of nitrous "knowledge," you'd know that I was correcting another member who believed that nitrous oxide was a liquid...when in fact, anyone that's been thru a high school chemistry class knows that it's normally a gas, and thus behaves like a gas. The only time it's in a liquid state is when it's super-cooled.
        Last edited by Smoke Panther; 06-30-2008, 05:37 PM.

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        • #64
          Re: Does a ram air setup on a V6 do anything?

          im not wasting my time in this thread, every time i say something to you, you give me back proof that never proves me wrong.

          dont bother replying to this.

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          • #65
            Re: Does a ram air setup on a V6 do anything?

            Originally posted by Firebirdkid96 View Post
            just so everyone knows the intake in question is now installed on my car and i can feel it sucking air from the hood nostrils....

            Got the intake I see, how is it working?
            2001 Firebird 3.8L

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            • #66
              Re: Does a ram air setup on a V6 do anything?

              Originally posted by Smoke Panther View Post
              I was correcting another member who believed that nitrous oxide was a liquid...when in fact, anyone that's been thru a high school chemistry class knows that it's normally a gas, and thus behaves like a gas. The only time it's in a liquid state is when it's super-cooled.
              I believe you were correcting me, which means you misunderstood my post too. I happen to be quite good at chemistry. 2(N20) + (heat) --> 2N2 + O2 + (crazy more heat)

              Originally posted by Smoke Panther View Post
              The only time it's in a liquid state is when it's super-cooled.
              and actually, its not cooled at all, its actually heated considerably, but this can get a little interesting. Gas behavior is fall out of the gas laws: (P1V1)/T1=(P2V2)/T2 pressure, volume and temperature respectively. So if you hold the volume constant and increase the pressure, that temperature is going to rise pretty significantly. Eventually, you'll compress the crap out of it and seal it off. Then you leave the bottle in your back seat or whatever and all that heat bleeds out and you have an ambient temp bottle. Then when you open it, the N2O jumps out causing the exact same decrease in temperature as it had risen before but the bottle is now at a much lower temperature, so you get freezing, ice and crap which I thought could damage your MAF

              My comments on atomization were about water v. oil. Sorry if that was not clear.

              /Chemistry tutorial

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              • #67
                Re: Does a ram air setup on a V6 do anything?

                Originally posted by Smoke Panther View Post
                ^even if there were gains, you're not going to see them on a dyno; something like a ram air hood would only manifest itself on the track
                exactly why i havent bothered dynoing it yet
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