A few pics, turbo under K setup

[dgreet77]

Re: A few pics, turbo under K setup

If you have the time, patience, and $$$ a tig welder would probably be the best. An arc welder (stick) is way too hot for most exhaust piping. A good mig welder with a good shielding gas would probably be the easiest way to go....but you are correct, good machine costs lots of $$$$. If you wanted, you could probably gas weld it, but that would take a long time, and isn't real effective for large gaps....

Anyways just my .02 from living on a ranch and having to weld a large array of nonsense...:)

[Blizzard242]

Re: A few pics, turbo under K setup

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0070921x00003a

That's the kind of welder I use at work. I love it, I can get some damn good welds out of it. I think I'd like to stick with MIG since I'm already so used to it. I just need to find a decent gas unit.

Then again.. TIG. How different is that than welding MIG? It looked like a plasma cutter with a filler stick. Just heat the metal up and poke it?

[Blizzard242]

Re: A few pics, turbo under K setup

Ya know what, screw it.. I'll just take a grinder to the nasty looking visible stuff. Problem solved.

[Fondle]

Re: A few pics, turbo under K setup

any ground clearance issues with the downpipe coming under the k member?

[dgreet77]

Re: A few pics, turbo under K setup

Ya know what, screw it.. I'll just take a grinder to the nasty looking visible stuff. Problem solved.

That is always a good solution, until you do about 5 minutes of grinding...i hate grinding...

tig is more like gas welding than anything, you add metal with a rod, and then have a foot petal which you use to control heat for your tungsten which is your heat source for the weld (instead of a torch like in gas). I didn't get to tig weld as much as i'd like to have when i had access to one, but it seems to be quite a bit nicer than gas welding because you have more control over everything...

So, lots different than mig....

[ssms5411]

Re: A few pics, turbo under K setup

Blizz, find someone to tig weld it comes out clean, or someone with gas. I have a lincoln pro mig 140 but no gas for it , the flux .030 and.035 comes out O.K. but when I get mine all spot welded up Peak Boost is going to tig everything up for me. But if I don't get to it by my own physical means, I'm going to just take it down and drop it off and let them weld it all up. More money to have them mock it up but less hurting for me in the long run on my back. I hope to get the shoter A/C hose on maybe this week ,depending on how everything goes. The way I look at it , your boosted and running quicker so who cares what it looks like. The car behind you won't see it.LOL

[Mad Max]

Re: A few pics, turbo under K setup

Some quick welding info - A stick welder is the work horse in welding. Usually used for heavier guage steel where heavy duty welding is required. There are different alloys of steel with an anti oxidizing agent on the outside of the 'stick'. This form of welding is generally not used for lighter duty production such as exhaust pipe. The heat ranges are fixed, in other words, they have to be set before welding.
The next phase is MIG (Metal Inert Gas), where a 220 volt high duty cycle unit will weld heavy steel and can be used for much smaller projects depending on the guage of wire used. A 110 volt unit has a much shorter duty cycle and is generally not used in production welding as it tends to overheat easily and requires a cool down period. These units are ok for light duty shop use. A MIG is a self feeding wire welder with a gas used as an anti oxidizing agent - generally carbon dioxide or a mix of CO2 and Argon gas. This keeps the steel from 'burning' up. There are also flux wire units that require no gas, but these don't provide a high quality weld. The heat control for these units is fixed, and must be adjusted along with wire feed rate before starting the welding process.
The last (and most expensive) is TIG (Tungsten Inert Gas). This uses the same pricipal as MIG, but you add the metal that you are welding. The 'stinger' or torch has a tungsten carbide welding tip and is sheilded by Argon gas. You strike an arc and melt the 2 materials and add a third to complete the weld. This is a much more precise system and can provide very attractive welds once the operator has had practice. The heat control is variable - by a rehostat while welding, which offers greater control.
Don't forget Oxy Acetylene. Gas welding is similar in that there is a very high temp open flame that is used to weld 2 metals together. The 2 surfaces are bought to a melting point, then a third metal is added to fill the joining surfaces. Depending on what is being welded, this can provide attractive welds. The drawback is the amount of heat generated during the process, which can cause warping if the operator is not careful or a heat sink is not used. Usually, electrical welding does not generate as much heat, and the heat can be controlled more easily.
A good TIG welder runs from $1,800 (basic) to big $$$$$ multi function units. You may buy a stick/TIG/Mig welder all in one unit. This is what I have and it was $4,800.
Hope this helps....:D

Or I could use my crappy welder that made all of those other crappy welds to fix it in eh.. 5 minutes? I don't like that exhaust sealer stuff. I've used it before. And I'll never do it again.



**** I hope yours comes out better too! I'm gonna attempt some of my own oval piping. I believe I'll get a better welder before that though. I need to shop around.. I need to figure out the differences between mig, tig, stick, whatever. Any idea on what's best for thin *** exhaust pipes anyways?



Actually, I have a few more pics on my Fquick. If you really want some better pictures, I'll take some when I get the car jacked up again.. However, I procrastinate a ton as far as pictures go.

[cam98aro]

Re: A few pics, turbo under K setup

Well if you ever feel the need to buy a welder, don't go cheap. You can see why.. It get's the job done though.. eh.

what kind of welder are you using?

does it not have any hookups so you can use shielding gas instead of just flux core?

my buddy is picking up a snapon mig welder that has attachments for a tig/stick welder

100% duty cycle

[Mad Max]

Re: A few pics, turbo under K setup

I have a Snap on unit, probably the same as you are talking about. Crap if I can remeber the model number. I think it's a TK 2020. I'd have to look. Anyway, it has the optional TIG stuff, can stick weld and you can use an aluminum spool welder which I paid almost $500 for. Snap on is not cheap. The unit itself was $2,000 in 1998. It is a 100% duty cycle 220 volt unit. I use CO2 straight for regular MIG and have a smaller bottle of Argon / CO2 mix for TIG / aluminum. The CO2 is alot cheaper when you are doing alot of productioon welding - like trailers and frame mods. The welds still come out good on CO2. TIG is the only way to go for fine welding, like exhaust systems, sheet metal, body panels, headers etc. I am going to fab an aluminum sheet metal intake for a 3.4 quad cam motor soon (yeah, like when I get the time) and will post pics. I guess I should buy the engine first :o. I haven't had time to do **** lately.:(

[Blizzard242]

Re: A few pics, turbo under K setup

I'm gonna talk to my snap-on dealer. He is convenient in the fact that he takes small weekly payments. That's about it. Other than that he's a big rip off. Anyways. I'll see what he has.

[ssms5411]

Re: A few pics, turbo under K setup

I just need the gas/cart for mine then I can do some better welds, I figure $100 for used tanks and cart and I already have the lines and gauges that came with the Lincoln Pro Mig 140 I have. I wonder can I use nitrous tanks for gas or does it have to be a certain kind of tank?

[Blizzard242]

Re: A few pics, turbo under K setup

I don't know if it would be the same for you with smaller tanks, but there's a company that fills the tanks and we return them when they're empty. Well, they pick them up, but it's the same idea. Kinda like a propane tank deal that's at gas stations or wherever.

[dgreet77]

Re: A few pics, turbo under K setup

I am pretty sure you have to have a certain flavor of tank. As far as I know they won't put a different gas in a tank designed for something else......

[bigbrian442]

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Smaller CO2 and nitrous tanks are the same, just the valves are different. Up to about 20# bottles. Large steel bottles can hold just about any inert gas you want, they just change the label on it.

[Blizzard242]

Re: A few pics, turbo under K setup

Smaller CO2 and nitrous tanks are the same, just the valves are different. Up to about 20# bottles. Large steel bottles can hold just about any inert gas you want, they just change the label on it.

Yeah, I believe when we get our containers they use permanent marker to label...