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keep in mind the OP isn't dealing with a stripped down track car----taking out the interior for weight redux and throwing in 4.10's has nothing to do with the duals making a major difference over a traditional full exhaust.
From what I have been reading and it has been substantial the underside of the V8 car and the V6 cars are identical save foe the hangers. Any exhaust place that is performance orientated would love to do the Job I am sure of that. But there is Merit to what the others are saying if you are going to go forced induction the exit has to be a bit bigger and easier to flow. However if it is a stock motor then you will get little to no gain from a dual system over a good single Highflow system. As for the sound that is a personal preference thing I searched alot of sound clips before I settled on the Magna Flow Catback I currently have and it made the V6 sound better then the fart can cars I have running around my area.
keep in mind the OP isn't dealing with a stripped down track car----taking out the interior for weight redux and throwing in 4.10's has nothing to do with the duals making a major difference over a traditional full exhaust.
who said my car is a stripped down track car?? only thing i have taken out of it is back seats, spare and jack. i daily drive my car with 105k miles on it. and how is running a 13.78 to a 13.60 after putting x pipe on not a difference in performance?
once again, no one is asserting that you didn't gain anything, the whole point of this thread is if true duals with a x-pipe will fit and are they worth it over a traditional full exhaust. with a stock rear end and gearing, normal curb weight, and similar bolt-ons the situation would be quite similar between duals vs. single full 2.5-3.0" exhaust. taking your car down to 2900lbs and 4.10's are clearly helping your timeslips.
as i said before, impressive numbers, no one is arguing that...but true duals with a x-pipe is not the holy grail of exhaust setups, just another route that the OP is considering.
Last edited by BallerMaro13; 06-16-2009, 08:16 PM.
true duals with a x-pipe is not the holy grail of exhaust setups, just another route that the OP is considering.
no its not holy grail....yes another route....im just posting so other people that say its pointless/doesnt work/wont sound good/no power ect...will think and realize it does. with people out there that have had success...it is another option. instead of people bashing others that want to do it....how about someone chimes in giving them the best route of doing it...rather than saying "it no good and you dont get anyting out of it. just stick with a high flowing 3 inch single pipe"...like true duals isnt high flowing. just dont get big pipes.
im not dissing anyone and im not opposing any others thoughts...im just trying to show people there are possible gains with doing an x pipe...if you find the time to build it.
i have personally seen/heard dual setups that were amazing---but took much much work.
If you don't plan to work in a decent cam, supporting valvetrain, and possible head work, i wouldn't go duals, but that's just my word, not the gospel.
pretty much has been my point the entire time...i have nothing against td's, and in fact if i had the extra time and money i might attempt it myself, but it limits f/i options and in MY opinion requires much more skill and work to pull off.
but yes, i'm glad you've had success and i wish there were more ppl around the site that have pulled it off to share their experiences for comparison.
Everyone try to keep this on topic I'm keeping an eye on it!
I myself would like to see H-pipes and X-pipes used in TD setups with proven track/dyno numbers behind them, but they seem fairly rare in the V6 community.
Everyone try to keep this on topic I'm keeping an eye on it!
I myself would like to see H-pipes and X-pipes used in TD setups with proven track/dyno numbers behind them, but they seem fairly rare in the V6 community.
The Cardinal/Dominic did it. According to him it was too loud and it didn't sound very good. No HP gain either in Dyno.
But hey, I'm not going to knock it. People here have different set up so it will be unique. Just like people with flowmaster or Borla. They all sound different...some crappy & some good.
Are you set on going with the true dual setup? or is it just a notion? what are your goals for the car?
I think the point that's trying to be made is that td's are quite an investment and take some extra know-how and fabbing to make the best of of them. If your car is basically stock, duals are going to most likely be very raspy and not help much for performance, but i have personally seen/heard dual setups that were amazing---but took much much work.
If you don't plan to work in a decent cam, supporting valvetrain, and possible head work, i wouldn't go duals, but that's just my word, not the gospel. I just put in headers with a full 3" exhaust, borla catback, and a 3" e-cutout and i couldn't be happier with it---i get asked on a daily basis if it's a ls1.
let us know what you plan to do to the car and we'll help u figure out what might be the best plan.
k well im going to put posi (already have the posi) and 3:73s (they are on the way) drop a cam in it do head work intake and a few other things yes, but i was just wondering as to what all the x pipe involved sound/performance wise, i have the stock headers and y pipe into dynomax duals on my car now, so i was wondering if it would be better to just get aftermarket headers and y pipe or do a x pipe set up?
and thanks for actually helping (no offence to everyone else, i thank you guys to) cause it seems like people started arguing over this hahaha
the whole point of the tread was to find out if runing an x pipe td set up is woth it as in performance wise, if not, i will y pipe it and call it a day
well if you're going through all the trouble to get duals and x-pipe running, you definitely dont want the stock manifolds/y-pipe in there. your best bet would be to save up for a set of FFF longtube headers and run a x/h-pipe back with mufflers of your choice.
when i did my full exhaust setup i pulled every bit of my stock out and made everything new work together so there is no bottlenecking.
talk to meatyshells, i believe he's pulled off some longtubes quite well.
well that's gonna depend on if you want true duals or a traditional setup. x/h-pipe will of course be for the duals, and a y-pipe will be for the traditional single/split exhaust.
members on here could debate for days (and have in previous threads) about duals vs. single and pipe diameters but generally our f-bodies will respond to exhaust upgrades in a similar manner, but as i said before, td's are going to be more work.
Haven’t done anything on the Camaro, but put LEDs on my truck headlights . And my oil pressure sensor went out on the truck so going to fix that this...
Haven’t done anything on the Camaro, but put LEDs on my truck headlights . And my oil pressure sensor went out on the truck so going to fix that this...
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