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    I know a good beginer kit is the 5175, but I ws wondering if a. it is adjustable, and b. if you pump the nitrous in infront of the IAT and MAF will the injectors compensate for it on there own.
    Turbocharged and intercooled.<br />17psi(oops), stock fuel pump, no FMU<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/phoenix64\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/phoenix64</a> <br />Video: <a href=\"ftp://ftp.pfabrication.com\" target=\"_blank\">ftp://ftp.pfabrication.com</a> Assorted car ****: TurboCamaroFull.

  • #2
    It is adjustable, I believe the kit comes with 85hp jets, you put the nozzle before the MAF this way the MAF gets readings of how much extra air is coming in from the Nitrous, Once the MAF senses this the injectors will compensate automatically, It is probly one of the easiest kits. But I would suggest a wet kit. Check out the Nitrous Express 20920, this is the kit I have and like it much better than a dry kit.

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    • #3
      oh and if you have any other questions about different kits, wet, dry NOS, NX try searching you will get faster results.

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      • #4
        <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by phoenix64:
        I know a good beginer kit is the 5175, but I ws wondering if a. it is adjustable, and b. if you pump the nitrous in infront of the IAT and MAF will the injectors compensate for it on there own.<hr></blockquote>

        It is adjustable if you change jets. Figuring out the jets is a good question...

        The pcm does tell the injectors to stay open longer, as a result of the nitrous flow. It cools the IAT, telling the pcm the air is more dense, and it cools the MAF sensor, telling the pcm there is more air coming into the engine.

        In addition, the kit bumps the fuel pressure up too, so the injectors actually flow more fuel than normal, for the same pulse width.

        If you want to go adjustable above the 85hp, plan to monitor your a/f ratio and make modifications to further increase the fuel. (maft, boost-a-pump, etc...)
        \'98 A4 Camaro v6-&gt;v8 conversion, and STS kit next<br />v6: 13.6 Powerdyne, 13.2 150 shot, 13.8 120 shot, 14.3 85 shot, 15.7 stock<br />v8(na): 12.18@113, 392rwhp<br />Moderator on <a href=\"http://www.mtfba.org\" target=\"_blank\">www.mtfba.org</a> and <a href=\"http://www.frrax.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.frrax.com</a> (Road Race & Autocross)<br /><a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/johnduncan10\" target=\"_blank\">Car pics</a>, <a href=\"http://www.trscca.com\" target=\"_blank\">TN Region SCCA</a>

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        • #5
          Hey, you guys are good :cool:
          Just to repeat what they said.
          Yes it is adjustable, all nitrous kits are adjustable.
          They all have these things called jets which are interchangable to adjust the amount of nitrous.
          And yes the injectors, amf, iat, and computer compensate
          Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
          nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
          2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
          2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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          • #6
            I know that all kits are adjustable, I was wondering what jets are included, what do others cost, and why is the wet system so much better?, are they not also more dangerous because of the wet flow, through a dry flow manifold?

            [ July 21, 2002: Message edited by: phoenix64 ]</p>
            Turbocharged and intercooled.<br />17psi(oops), stock fuel pump, no FMU<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/phoenix64\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/phoenix64</a> <br />Video: <a href=\"ftp://ftp.pfabrication.com\" target=\"_blank\">ftp://ftp.pfabrication.com</a> Assorted car ****: TurboCamaroFull.

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            • #7
              Try a search in this section.
              I know I've discussed the pro's and con's of wet vs dry etc and what is included
              Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
              nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
              2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
              2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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              • #8
                <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by phoenix64:
                I know that all kits are adjustable, I was wondering what jets are included, what do others cost<hr></blockquote>

                With the NOS-5175, there is only the standard pair of jets included. If you want to go up or down, you will need to order additional jets. Jegs, summitracing, etc., list them for 6.99 each, and then there's shipping/handling...

                (Dry is more limited on how high you can go because it is more difficult to get the stock fuel system to flow the correct additional fuel on demand only, and still flow normal amounts of fuel during normal operation. If tuned correctly it is "safer" in terms of backfires/explosions. But if you run lean you will still hurt the engine in a bad way. Wet is probably easier to tune, but it does introduce fuel into a manifold system not designed to carry fuel...)
                \'98 A4 Camaro v6-&gt;v8 conversion, and STS kit next<br />v6: 13.6 Powerdyne, 13.2 150 shot, 13.8 120 shot, 14.3 85 shot, 15.7 stock<br />v8(na): 12.18@113, 392rwhp<br />Moderator on <a href=\"http://www.mtfba.org\" target=\"_blank\">www.mtfba.org</a> and <a href=\"http://www.frrax.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.frrax.com</a> (Road Race & Autocross)<br /><a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/johnduncan10\" target=\"_blank\">Car pics</a>, <a href=\"http://www.trscca.com\" target=\"_blank\">TN Region SCCA</a>

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                • #9
                  I just had one more question, why not make my own dry kit? you can get botles of e-bay for cheap, and all you need then is the line the jets, and the switches.
                  Turbocharged and intercooled.<br />17psi(oops), stock fuel pump, no FMU<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/phoenix64\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/phoenix64</a> <br />Video: <a href=\"ftp://ftp.pfabrication.com\" target=\"_blank\">ftp://ftp.pfabrication.com</a> Assorted car ****: TurboCamaroFull.

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                  • #10
                    Sure, you could do that, run around get this part and that part.
                    In kit form you know you have all the parts ahead of time though
                    Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
                    nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
                    2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
                    2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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                    • #11
                      hey james, what jet would u recommend for a basically stock 3.8? i only have the mods that are listed in my sig, what would u think is a safe shot to run?
                      -Chris<br />2001 Pewter Camaro M5<br />Current Mods: NOS Dry Kit and a few others<br />N/A: 15.5@88.9MPH<br />N2O: ??? <br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/jtusa69888\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/jtusa69888</a>

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                      • #12
                        Safest shot? no shot at all.
                        Nitrous is not safe
                        85 hp jets come with the nos kit 5175 though.
                        |With a well tuned car and used sparingly this is a good level with ngk tr6 spark plugs
                        Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
                        nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
                        2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
                        2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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