anyody seen this before?

[corvetteguy]

www.designengineering.com
it is some sort of CO2 based charged air kit..It looks pretty cool to me and may in fact work in theory..Anybody have any experience with this,or did I just stumble on something new for debate? :D

[BattyV6]

I've been talking to the guys at Design Engineering. Here's an e-mail they sent me yesterday...

Hello Andrew,
The tank kit is about $373.00, 6AN fuel bars 123.00 and intake segments are $156.00. With a NA motor you could see a dramatic drop in intake temp. With one of these installed we went from a 83 degree intake temp to 32 degrees. So we gained almost 15 HP and the fuel bar might add 7-12
-Ryan

...these numbers are for a stock/non-modified Firebird (3.8L), you can also put two Cryo bulbs in the intake for increased performance...so they say. I always thought you would gain 1 HP per 10* drop in intake temp...in this case it would only be 5 HP...but I may be wrong

Hope this helps!!!

-Andrew

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[Oryan02]

Maybe somebody can enlighten me. Does this system expell the CO2?(Outside the intake for obvious reasons) If it doesn't, I don't see how it can work. It would be kinda like putting a BB gun CO2 catridge in there. Those aren't cold until you puncture them. The website doesn't explain it too well.

[BattyV6]

...not too sure on that one, I think tho, that it only supercools the bulb and fuel rail and disipates heat from the air and fuel, just a thought.

-Andrew

[corvetteguy]

so then does it appear it would be a good addition to a normally aspirated engine and could potentially make decen power?

[Oryan02]

I would call them and ask them how exactly the system works. It must expell the CO2 somehow in order to cool the intake charge. Why not give it a try? Let us know how it works if you get any more info or buy one.

[12secondv6]

Resident post whore was already on top of this [img]smile.gif[/img] :
http://www.camarov6.com/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=6&t=011289


The CryO²™ Air Intake consists of an aerodynamically design bulb with a cryogenic chamber which is mounted in a 4" segment of air tube. As the air passes over the bulb heat is removed from the air charge resulting in a colder, denser more powerful charge. Dyno testing showed a reduction in intake air temperature of more than 35%. The CryO²™ Air Intake can be used on tubocharged, supercharged or naturally aspirated applications. Multiple units can be used for colder results. Installs in minutes and comes with silicone connection sleeve, hose clamps and connection/vent hose.

Basically, CO2 and/ or Nitrogen are NOT injected into the path of air which enters the engine for combustion.
The CO2 or nitrogen just passes through a 'chamber' in the path of the incoming air and it superchills the incoming air

Interesting stuff.
Dunno if I'd do it for an n/a application, but it would work.
If I had a blower/ turbo w/ an inter/ after cooler then the set up would be more benificial.