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    i was originally thinking about a turbo system for my car, but i may decide to go with a nitrous system after seeing the price differences. my question is, i would want to make the engine bulletproof to just about any shot of nitrous i would throw at it. what would i need to modify to allow the engine to withstand 100-150 shot of nitrous?
    \'98 Camaro - SOLD<br />Best E/T: 15.489 @ 86.48 MPH<br />60\': 2.131<br /><a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/skorpion317\" target=\"_blank\">members.cardomain.com/skorpion317 </a><br />1998 Saturn SL2<br />Official <a href=\"http://www.njdisturbance.com\" target=\"_blank\">NJ Disturbance</a> bracket racer

  • #2
    pistons and rods are the 2 main components that come to mind. I have a set of Wiseco forged ceramic/moly coated pistons Im selling for $500.
    Intense racing sells the same type for $900.
    Email me if your interested.
    Shane
    00 Pewter Y87 Camaro-SS Hood/Chrome rims, Black Halos, Clear corners, Pacesetters, V8 K&N FIPK, 3\" B&B TriFlow, HPP3, MSD Coils, Taylor wires, Transgo stage II, Edge 3000 Stall, 180* thermo, SLP Bowtie Grill<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/468763/1/\" target=\"_blank\">Carro</a>

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    • #3
      yea pistons and rods, along with a upgraded fuel system (i.e. walbro 255 fuel pump) are the main things. Maybe some ignition stuff would be smart to.
      http://www.bowtiev6.com/

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      • #4
        Well, 100 shot can be done on a stock bottem end.

        Most likely a 125 shot can be done also.

        To be safe:
        Cryo prepped crankshaft
        Pistons, slightly lower compression than stock
        Connecting rods.
        Valvetrain
        255 LPH fuel pump
        Piston rings
        Port intake and heads

        Direct port.

        I have tried 125 wet multiple times and resulted in backfires.

        I think the weak link of my system is the angle of the upper intake manifold.

        It would be safe/ smart to do a direct port with anything over 125 shot.
        Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
        nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
        2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
        2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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        • #5
          i'm planning on starting with a dry system, NOS's kit for the 3.8l most likely. that's one of the only kits i've seen specifically for the 3.8l.

          what other tuning would i have to do? i'm talking like fuel maps, etc. would i have to get something like the HP Tuners program?
          \'98 Camaro - SOLD<br />Best E/T: 15.489 @ 86.48 MPH<br />60\': 2.131<br /><a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/skorpion317\" target=\"_blank\">members.cardomain.com/skorpion317 </a><br />1998 Saturn SL2<br />Official <a href=\"http://www.njdisturbance.com\" target=\"_blank\">NJ Disturbance</a> bracket racer

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          • #6
            I don't know about HP Tuners yet.

            I will be using them shortly.

            I'll post results.

            Timing would be left stock though

            Wideband dyno tune to make sure everything is fine
            Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
            nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
            2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
            2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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            • #7
              I blew up my stock engine on a 125 shot, but that was because I had a full manual setup and I wasn't paying attention to what I was doing.

              I built a bulletproof bottom end and everything is great. I can bounce off the rev limiter, spray at low rpm....and the engine lives on happily. (I don't do these foolish things regularly, nor do I recomend doing them ever).

              Check my sig link for a synopsis.
              1999 red camaro v6 M5: with a turbo<br />13.52@107.99<br />No, seriously: Who Farted? <br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/600086\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/600086</a>

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              • #8
                When you say low rpm... how low?

                Because the engine needs some velocity for nitrous, too low a rpm can cause problems

                Bounce off the rev limiter..... cuts fuel... that is bad
                Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
                nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
                2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
                2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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                • #9
                  THe kit instructions say never to spray below 3000rpm. I have sprayed at 2600 a couple of times.

                  And yes, I know that bouncing off of the rev limiter sucks. It sucked 1700 bucks right out of my wallet for a new engine.
                  1999 red camaro v6 M5: with a turbo<br />13.52@107.99<br />No, seriously: Who Farted? <br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/600086\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/600086</a>

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                  • #10
                    I lost an engine on a 120 shot..... due to me installing wrong injectors... and not tuning it to compensate :(
                    Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
                    nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
                    2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
                    2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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